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Is BJ Penn's Legacy on the Line at UFC 101?   [View Full Version]
emfleek » Posted 11/18/07 4:54:00PM

At UFC 101 BJ Penn finally gets to answer all the questions. Is he really the best lightweight in the world, or is he overrated? Fans have started questioning the strength of his wins at 155, starting with the win over Jens Pulver. Pulver's gone on such a bad losing streak that the win isn't impressive in retrospect. He got a nice win over Joe Stevenson, but Stevenson went on to suffer a first round loss to Kenny Florian and a decision to Diego Sanchez. His win over Sherk looked impressive until Frankie Edgar easily outboxed Sherk.

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finnish_line » Posted 8/16/07 8:54:00AM


If Penn loses he will be 13-6-1.

That's a 65% winning percentage.

Not that great a record.

Rush » Posted 1/31/07 10:42:00PM


Posted by finnish_line


If Penn loses he will be 13-6-1.

That's a 65% winning percentage.

Not that great a record.




The same can be said about Randy, but people were calling him the best for years. I think it's important to see who he has lost to.

2 x GSP
1 x Hughes
1 x Machida

Other than his loss to Pulver he has only came up short against champions.

grappler0000 » Posted 3/24/07 5:29:00PM


Posted by finnish_line


If Penn loses he will be 13-6-1.

That's a 65% winning percentage.

Not that great a record.



It's not great until you consider the weight classes he's fought in and the level of competition he's faced. I do think that he has a lot to lose in this fight though.

MiniMan » Posted 8/3/09 9:43:00AM

First post!

I cant see how the words 'BJ Penn' and 'Over rated' can even allowed to be used together!!

BJ got whooped by GSP, No shame... He will be back strong. I do think Kenny has a good shot at winning this though.

grappler0000 » Posted 3/24/07 5:29:00PM


Posted by Rush


Posted by finnish_line


If Penn loses he will be 13-6-1.

That's a 65% winning percentage.

Not that great a record.




The same can be said about Randy, but people were calling him the best for years. I think it's important to see who he has lost to.

2 x GSP
1 x Hughes
1 x Machida

Other than his loss to Pulver he has only came up short against champions.



Not to mention, the GSP 1 and Machida fights were close decisions.

prozacnation1978 » Posted 7/5/07 11:42:00PM

i do think that if penn loses he might retire,
or call out gsp again,

seanfu » Posted 11/4/07 10:24:00AM

His record means nothing.

He fought all the best since his MMA debut. And we all know if he loses to Kenflo he's probably still top 3 LW by talent.

You're talking about a guy who basically drew with GSP, destroyed Matt Hughes in every aspect of the game in the first fight, outclassed Sean Sherk, beat Renzo, beat Takanori Gomi, beat Matt Serra in his 6th fight, and almost beat Jens in a decision in his 4th fight.

I have kenflo winning this fight, but BJ is amazing.

If you look at his strength of schedule it's incredible.

If he loses it will diminish his legacy, but any loss does. He's still the greatest LW ever.

RiseUp21 » Posted 6/9/08 9:45:00AM


Posted by Rush


Posted by finnish_line


If Penn loses he will be 13-6-1.

That's a 65% winning percentage.

Not that great a record.




The same can be said about Randy, but people were calling him the best for years. I think it's important to see who he has lost to.

2 x GSP
1 x Hughes
1 x Machida


Other than his loss to Pulver he has only came up short against champions.



What do you mean? Pulver was a champ, too..



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