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kublakhan » Posted 3/13/07 5:14:00PM

If you were a mixed-martial-artist and you were highly proficient in two fighting styles, what combination would make the most complete and dominant fighter?

Example: Boxing and Judo, Wrestling and BJJ, etc.

madmarck » Posted 1/24/07 5:55:00PM

This the perfect mesh of Kickboxing and Sambo.

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Ydoc » Posted 2/2/07 9:39:00AM

Blah, we've done this with 3 fighting styles before.

If you have that KO power I'd say Boxing (to put some technique behind that power) and Wrestling (to know how to keep it standing and not get pushed around on the ground).

If you don't have ko power I'd go Sambo (get them down) and BJJ (sub them).

bayonetxwork » Posted 2/2/07 7:39:00AM

watered down karate for the win!

mkiv9secsupra » Posted 1/30/07 1:49:00AM

there is no combo for a perfect fighter...it depends on the fighters discipline in their techniques that make them better

Trapt1nw0nder » Posted 2/1/07 12:30:00AM

My Brain in Tito Ortiz's Body

a smaller head though..

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naw,but seriously...i would have to go with BJ Penn with Top knotch Tito Ortiz type conditioning

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tyo » Posted 3/18/07 10:43:00PM

tae boe
and under water basket weaving

madmarck » Posted 1/24/07 5:55:00PM


Posted by Trapt1nw0nder

My Brain in Tito Ortiz's Body

a smaller head though..

...

naw,but seriously...i would have to go with BJ Penn with Top knotch Tito Ortiz type conditioning


BJ with conidtioning could rule at 155 and 170 division. Too bad he doesnt train long enough b4 his fights.

Ydoc » Posted 2/2/07 9:39:00AM


Posted by Trapt1nw0nder

My Brain in Tito Ortiz's Body

a smaller head though..

...

naw,but seriously...i would have to go with BJ Penn with Top knotch Tito Ortiz type conditioning



That's funny, I some times think what fighters are total opposites, and the real big one that always stands out to me is Tito and BJ. Tito is all about cardio and strength despite lacking KO power and any expertise on more than 1 MMA fighting style while BJ is on the other end is a gifted athlete who is well versed in a good amount of styles but doesn't come in fight with good shape.

That fusion would be unstoppable... it could give all weight classes a run for its money.

tyo » Posted 3/18/07 10:43:00PM

BJ penn is the man, he's gonna come into his next fight in top shape. put a whoppin on jens pulver, then snatch the belt from either sherk or franca

wkm311 » Posted 2/14/07 4:40:00PM

If there was a person with the perfect mix of styles, I think the guy would look kinda like this...

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grappler0000 » Posted 3/24/07 5:29:00PM

Well, obviously different styles work for different people. You should probably narrow it down to the styles that have had the most impact on MMA: Boxing, Kickboxing/Muay Thai, Wrestling, JJ/BJJ...and perhaps Judo. The rest is pretty much a wash. Others styles may have impacted MMA in some very minor ways, but the aforementioned disciplines are by far the most effective. I'm not going to consider Sambo, since it is a hybrid style...and almost a mixed martial art within itself.

Obviously the perfect fighter would be well rounded, hence needing a background in a striking and grappling discipline. Deductive reasoning will tell us that Kickboxing/Muay Thai is more effective than boxing. I would have to side with Muay Thai as the ultimate stand-up game, as it allows for a wider spectrum of striking. If you want to go one step further, the Dutch technique would rank number 1.

The grappling portion is a little more difficult to debate...and there is probably not a good general answer...but would be better anwered based on the fighter's skill on their feet. First off, JJ could probably be eliminated in favor of BJJ as it is more refined. It is definately a close race between wrestling and BJJ. We have all seen some excellent Judo practitioners in the ring/cage, but it is not as easy of a transition to MMA as the other two(also, wrestlers usually have better conditioning than Judo folk, but that's a completely different debate)...so I will have to put Judo in 3rd place behind the front-runners...and yes I consider Karo Parisyan an exception to the rule. If one has a strong enough striking game as well as a very strong wrestling game, one can utilize a sprawl and brawl technique as Liddell has perfected so well. Obviously if either of those areas of lacking, then that approach will only work some of the time. In comes the ground and pound...very effective for the good grappler/moderate striker. The only problem with that approach is you can get caught against a BJJ practitioner. The other side of the coin is that a BJJ expert would have to be strongest in the guard in order to be effective against a wrestler. Considering all of this I would have to consider wrestling and BJJ a tie for the ground game.

In sumation, if the question was to name 3 instead of 2, this would have been an easy question to answer...Muay Thai, BJJ, and wrestling to fill the gap (Chute Boxe definately know what they're doing). Unfortunately, we can only have 2 here...so I'll have to call it a tie:

1. Muay Thai & Wrestling
1. Muay Thai & BJJ
3. Muay Thai & Judo

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crimethinc » Posted 1/24/07 2:48:00AM

This question has been asked ten times over and it's always a dumb question. The fighter has a lot more to do with the outcome of a fight then styles do. That being said, I think RoboCop dominate.

mkiv9secsupra » Posted 1/30/07 1:49:00AM

i think muay thai is overrated just a little. but if you want to be the best striker/GnP'er well then obviously its Kempo or Sambo with an extreme wrestling ability.

kublakhan » Posted 3/13/07 5:14:00PM

If you don't want to answer the question, then don't answer it. It must not be so dumb since you took time away from your rocket science research to reply.

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