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Laying down the beats
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What style of ninjutsu did you do?
I always wanted to learn Capoeira, but never had the time to try it.
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Post #16 6/19/08 8:45:58PM
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The People's Mod
Career record: 152-91
Season: 47-23 (#137)
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What is the draw to Capoiera? I have never understood it. There's very few applicable things in it if you ask me. Momentum being one, and head movement being two. I really don't see any other benefits to that style and why people are so drawn to it.
Obviously it looks cool, but so does getting kicked in the head by a legitimate fighter when you're down on the floor pretend fighting but actually break dancing 
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Post #17 6/19/08 10:09:03PM
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Laying down the beats
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Posted by Jackelope
What is the draw to Capoiera?
I think it looks beautiful and I can't dance anyways. So I figured I could kill two birds with one stone.
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Post #18 6/19/08 10:19:27PM
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The People's Mod
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Posted by Rush
Posted by Jackelope
What is the draw to Capoiera?
I think it looks beautiful and I can't dance anyways. So I figured I could kill two birds with one stone.
Fair enough. In retrospect I didn't mean for my post to sound so angry at the style. I just don't understand the martial aspect of the art. Artistically I agree- it is beautiful. Not to mention athletic as hell. I can't dance, either.. haha 
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Post #19 6/19/08 11:25:04PM
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Laying down the beats
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Posted by Jackelope
Fair enough. In retrospect I didn't mean for my post to sound so angry at the style. I just don't understand the martial aspect of the art. Artistically I agree- it is beautiful. Not to mention athletic as hell. I can't dance, either.. haha
No offence taken. It was a valid question. I forgot to mention it is athletic too. Man, the guys that do it are built. I guess all the handstands do that to you.
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Post #20 6/19/08 11:41:11PM
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Posted by Jackelope
What is the draw to Capoiera?
i think this will answer your question 
Capoeira in MMA
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Post #21 6/20/08 1:29:53PM
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The-Don
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Well Capoeria has its advantages in Balance, awareness, timing, speed, flexibility, Athleticisim... all attributes that help a fighter... I discovered very early I was not good at this art... but because of many of the moves being very circiluar the style has a fatal flaw.. if you get inside on someone and break thier momentum you pretty much have them stuck... Also from what I was told in many parts of Brazail You either study Jujitsu or Capoeria... its almost considered sacralige to learn both.... or so I have been told...
As for the ninjitsu./.. Man I honestly do not recall the style.. it's been about 13 years since I was in that class... I still recall alot though great instructor... If I can find out I will let you know...
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Post #22 6/20/08 1:35:39PM
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Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Posted by Jackelope
What is the draw to Capoiera?
i think this will answer your question
Capoeira in MMA
For every one of those there's two of these stories-
Riposte
Anyway, it's all fine and dandy. Not everyone studies a style because they want to compete in MMA or kickboxing or anything like that.
From a fighter's standpoint I just mainly look down on the lack of economy of motion, protection of the KO areas, and the lack of a stable base. (i.e. the part in my video where the dude gets sidekicked about 3 feet to the side)
If anybody wants to make an argument on how effective capoiera is for MMA then I think we can squash that argument by looking for top flight MMA competition who's main style is capoiera. 
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Post #23 6/21/08 3:30:39AM
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The-Don
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On a whole Capoeria I do not think would be effective in MMA Though mixing in some moves like the clip Cornish posted as you saw could have thier uses.. but I do not think you'd get away with stuff like that often...
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Post #24 6/21/08 7:13:11PM
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bigbubbano23
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i recently started taking judo classes and all i can really say is it is crazy. definatly alot to learn. all throws are extremly usful and work well against bjj guys, who focus on what to do when your on the ground and not really how to get there. I'd say my class is 75% standing takedowns and 25% ground work. I really like to go on the ground but in judo it's not always fun getting there. in my opinion judo is very underestimated in the mma world. if i could make the perfect fighter he would be great at Muay thai, judo, gracie bjj, boxing and have experince in wrestling.
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Post #25 6/23/08 12:57:01AM
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The-Don
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Posted by bigbubbano23
i recently started taking judo classes and all i can really say is it is crazy. definatly alot to learn. all throws are extremly usful and work well against bjj guys, who focus on what to do when your on the ground and not really how to get there. I'd say my class is 75% standing takedowns and 25% ground work. I really like to go on the ground but in judo it's not always fun getting there. in my opinion judo is very underestimated in the mma world. if i could make the perfect fighter he would be great at Muay thai, judo, gracie bjj, boxing and have experince in wrestling.
For awhile it was.. but as of late your seeing more judo style throws, in fact Guerrilla Jujitsu is a ground style that was developed by a Judoka who later learned Jujitsu and married the two styles in a way which seems to me very harmonious.
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Post #26 6/23/08 11:39:56AM
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