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Ya, I remember Goldberg talking about we can look for possibilities of seeing fedor and brock lesnar. Dude, after cro-cop's last two fights, I think they need a new name to hype. Lesnar would be good and i think he would do okay but i dont think its fair that he gets into the ufc by name alone. There are too many fighters who have worked their way up and I don't the ufc needs an unproven fighgter to bac who could just get run through by the bjj guys. I can't wait to see hunt fight AA or mother f-ing silvia.

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Posted by bezun

Ya, I remember Goldberg talking about we can look for possibilities of seeing fedor and brock lesnar. Dude, after cro-cop's last two fights, I think they need a new name to hype. Lesnar would be good and i think he would do okay but i dont think its fair that he gets into the ufc by name alone. There are too many fighters who have worked their way up and I don't the ufc needs an unproven fighgter to bac who could just get run through by the bjj guys. I can't wait to see hunt fight AA or mother f-ing silvia.


then again, he is as thick as they come and would mosty likley resist most sub attampts and deffinitly chokes.

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I don't know if Hunt can make 265 or not -- I'm guessing that he can, or the UFC would have had an issue with it, and they would have made that issue known before they wrote a check or signed any contracts.

As far as the UFC having an Open Weight event, it won't happen. The Athletic Commissions in most states would be very reluctant to grant permission for such a thing.

I do think that eventually, the UFC will create a SuperHeavyWeight Division, for Fighters 265 and above.

In a UFC SHW Div, I can easily see Lesnar (he barely made 262 for his fight with Min-Soo Kim), Hunt, possibly Fedor, and maybe even Tim Sylvia, who does have to cut weight before most fights.

Also rumored for the UFC are Bantam & Feather Weight classes... the UFC has actually held one BantamWeight fight before. Bantam & FeatherWeight will probably be reality within the next few years.

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I dont see why Hunt couldn't make 165. Joe Riggs made 170 and he used to be 230 some odd pounds. I don't think Hunt has the ground skills to beat Arlovski, Randy, or Big Nog.

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i love mark hunt! that's great news!!!

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Posted by DutchRebelP
Learn from your master (Pride) and create an open weight division!!!


Yeah just look at PRIDE now

Post #21   9/9/07 2:43:35PM   

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ufc really cant have open weight division in america, the general concensis of people who dont know mma think its a barbaric sport. Everyone would have a shit fit over the open wieght division and stricter wieght classes would be enforced because of it. Unless we hole the open eight fights iover seas itll never happen cuz its limited

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Mark Hunt is a beast. I can't wait for the future fights. They're going to be stacked. Fedor vs Randy, that's a historical match up right there, and I'd root for a good fight. I'd hate to see Randy get walked on. I'd like to know what's next for Rampage, there's Shogun after he beats Griffin, or the winner of the Chuck Liddell vs Silva fight. Personally I think Chuck would need to beat Shogun, and Silva to get another chance against Jackson.

I'm dying to see Henderson drop to 185 and take on Anderson, he REALLY impressed and surprised me in the fight with Jackson. I gave the first two rounds to Dan. And I thought Joe Riggs dropped from 300 lbs. I hear Goldberg always say that.

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I dont see why Hunt couldn't make 165. Joe Riggs made 170 and he used to be 230 some odd pounds. I don't think Hunt has the ground skills to beat Arlovski, Randy, or Big Nog.



lol Randy is far from a submission specialist. Hunt got subbed in all 3 of his losses, by Yoshida, Barnett, and Fedor. Those are three impressive ground specialists. Hunt rolls people out of mount and side control like nobody in mma, I think he'd destroy Randy. Arlovski?? Come on. Hunt would never tap to a heel hook. That's another easy win. As for Nog, he'd have a lot of problems with Hunt. I think Hunt would beat him as well. Sure, Hunt could get caught, but his fight with Fedor showed how much he's improving. It's been nine months since then, I'm sure he's only better.

As for the weight, he walks around right now at 280 according to his trainer, making the weight if the money's right (which obviously it is) will not be an issue.

One final note about Fedor, the world going around UFC brass is Fedor vs Couture will be Randy's next fight.

As for Gomi and Barnett, Dana didn't rule out signing Barnett. Gomi would be huge for the UFC. He will unify either 155 or 170 (most likely 170), and apparently has been training strictly in BJJ since the Diaz fight.



Ok why would Nog have problems with Hunt? And why wouldn't Hunt tap to a heel hook? As for Gomi, I'm not quite sure if you saying Gomi would unify the titles by saying he could beat the UFC champs at 170 and 155. GSP, Matt Hughes, BJ Penn, Sean Sherk, and Matt Serra would all beat Gomi. Bj Penn already beat him. Matt Serra worked him in Abu Dhabi, I know it's a different game than mma but he wouldput a grappling clinic on against Gomi. Imo Gomi hasn't impressed me since he won the Lightwieght tourney.

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mark hunt vs aa i think that would be great match up hunt would be a nasty guy in the ufc sylvia and hunt also he would be one of the biggest Hw's they have there oh man that would be great for him in the UFC:D:P

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Posted by puppettamer

mark hunt vs aa i think that would be great match up hunt would be a nasty guy in the ufc sylvia and hunt also he would be one of the biggest Hw's they have there oh man that would be great for him in the UFC:D:P


Probably a carbon copy of Arlovski-Rizzo.
Which means a standup fight where both are neither over zealous nor backing up.

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im sayin mark hunt hw champ 2008! (if fedor doesnt sign)

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Posted by puppettamer

mark hunt vs aa i think that would be great match up hunt would be a nasty guy in the ufc sylvia and hunt also he would be one of the biggest Hw's they have there oh man that would be great for him in the UFC:D:P


Probably a carbon copy of Arlovski-Rizzo.
Which means a standup fight where both are neither over zealous nor backing up.



Yeah...with Arlovski and his weak jaw getting destroyed by Hunt.

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I dont see why Hunt couldn't make 165. Joe Riggs made 170 and he used to be 230 some odd pounds. I don't think Hunt has the ground skills to beat Arlovski, Randy, or Big Nog.



lol Randy is far from a submission specialist. Hunt got subbed in all 3 of his losses, by Yoshida, Barnett, and Fedor. Those are three impressive ground specialists. Hunt rolls people out of mount and side control like nobody in mma, I think he'd destroy Randy. Arlovski?? Come on. Hunt would never tap to a heel hook. That's another easy win. As for Nog, he'd have a lot of problems with Hunt. I think Hunt would beat him as well. Sure, Hunt could get caught, but his fight with Fedor showed how much he's improving. It's been nine months since then, I'm sure he's only better.

As for the weight, he walks around right now at 280 according to his trainer, making the weight if the money's right (which obviously it is) will not be an issue.

One final note about Fedor, the world going around UFC brass is Fedor vs Couture will be Randy's next fight.

As for Gomi and Barnett, Dana didn't rule out signing Barnett. Gomi would be huge for the UFC. He will unify either 155 or 170 (most likely 170), and apparently has been training strictly in BJJ since the Diaz fight.



Ok why would Nog have problems with Hunt? And why wouldn't Hunt tap to a heel hook? As for Gomi, I'm not quite sure if you saying Gomi would unify the titles by saying he could beat the UFC champs at 170 and 155. GSP, Matt Hughes, BJ Penn, Sean Sherk, and Matt Serra would all beat Gomi. Bj Penn already beat him. Matt Serra worked him in Abu Dhabi, I know it's a different game than mma but he wouldput a grappling clinic on against Gomi. Imo Gomi hasn't impressed me since he won the Lightwieght tourney.



Why would Nog have problems with Hunt?? Well let's see, Hunt has improved a lot since the Yoshida fight (his first mma fight). The only other guys to beat him were big, strong grapplers (Fedor and Barnett) that were able to use some of their strength. Hunt would rag doll Nog. Sure, he could get a slick sub, but the odds are pretty small. Hunt would bash him from pillar to post and win an easy decision IMO. Why wouldn't he tap from a heel hook?? Hmmm, probably because he's been caught in one at least 5 times and rolled out of it with ease, with his brute strength he'd just power right out of it. He's also tough as nails, you should watch his K-1 fights, a heel hook wouldn't finish him.

As for Gomi, I said he'd unify the titles, I didn't say he'd win. To say that GSP, Hughes, Penn, Sherk and Serra would beat him is pretty comical in my opinion. Penn fought Gomi before Gomi even knew how to box, he didn't start until he joined PRIDE, after the Penn fight. If Penn stood with him now he'd get demolished. Penn is real slick and could still catch him in a sub for sure, but that's basically a pick 'em fight. Matt Hughes would beat Gomi?? Gomi's never been stopped by strikes, and Hughes striking is brutal. Gomi would KO him easier then GSP did. Please. Matt Serra?? That was a joke right?? Gomi is a far better wrestler then Serra, and would KO him standing easier then Shonie Carter did. GSP would be his toughest fight by far due to his well roundedness. If GSP stood with Gomi he'd get knocked out, plain and simple. He'd have to take Gomi down and control him, which is easier said then done (ask Ishida). Sean Sherk?? Gomi would KO him inside 3 rounds easy. Gomi doesn't get lay'd n pray'd ever. Sherk isn't going to sub him. He'd lose. You haven't been impressed with him since he destroyed everybody in the Grand Prix?? lol that's almost hypocritical, and you're right, he got cocky since then. He still steamrolled Ishida and has never lost to a Japanese fighter or a wrestler. So all of those matchups you claim he'd lose to are a little far fetched. Nobody at 170 can stand with him. He was jet lagged and sick vs Diaz, not to mention ridiculously overconfident and didn't train properly, but still busted Diaz up. I don't think anybody wants to stand with him from 170 down. But let's see it happen.

As for the other guy who made the crack that PRIDE is gone, last time I checked they had far superior cards and tournaments, not to mention presentation. A mafia connection is what killed that company. Is any UFC in the last 2 years better then a Final Conflict, Shockwave, or Critical Countdown?? No. PRIDE 33 was far superior to anything the UFC has ever done. Watch it.



Do you knowwhat your rambling about? Mark Hunt's K-1 fights have nothing to do with getting subbed via heel hook. Nog is one the best grapplers in mma, I have yet see Hunt throw any of the top competition around like rag dolls. That's not his style. Your pathetic excuse for Gomi losing to Diaz is laughable. If Gomi is such a better wrestler than Serra why did Serra take him down and submit him with a rear naked choke without breaking a sweat. I also don't understand why I'm being hypocritical when I felt that Gomi hasn't looked impressive since he won the GP. By the way Gomi lost to BJ Penn when he was ranked number 1 in the world. He had striking skills in that fight. But when all is said I do think Gomi is a top ten lightweight, I just don't think he can beat the fighters mentioned.

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Posted by guccimane

Gomi's a top ten lightweight?? lol. Naw? really?? Way to go out on a limb there. Gomi was ranked number 1 when he fought Penn, but was he the striker then he became in PRIDE?? If you actually watch his shooto fights, you'd realize he never knocked guys out standing or had the boxing skills he has now until he went to PRIDE. Check it out. The "excuses" for why he lost to Diaz?? When had Gomi fought in the U.S. before?? The only time he fought outside of Japan was years earlier when he fought Penn. He had a severe flu going into that fight, that's not an excuse, it's a fact. He also said Diaz was "weak" and was expecting to walk through him in two minutes. I'm not saying Diaz "win" is tainted, I'm telling you why Gomi didn't look like his regular self. He was gassed after 60 seconds, and before that, he almost stopped Diaz twice. If you think Serra and all those guys would beat him that's fine, I think you're wrong.

As for Hunt, watching him eat high kicks and haymakers from Sefo with his hands down calling him on tells me he's as tough as they come. As in, he has a high threshold for pain most do not. Which is why I don't think he'd tap to a heel hook, not to mention the fact he's been caught in a bunch before and got out of them. Yeah, Nog is one of the top grapplers, but he hasn't had many submissions as of late, and imo hasn't been the same since Fedor dominated him the second time. Hunt has never manhandled anybody?? I guess you missed him throw Wanderlei around like a rag doll and reverse and throw Fedor off him like he was nothing, something I've never seen anybody do. Hope that "ramble" was good enough for you and you comprehend it.



I guess I'll let your 3-6 record and your $80 bank roll speak for itself allstar.

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