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mk1630
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I was reading about the undercard fights on ufc.com and it said that after sobral won the fans booed and then in the conference after the fight dana white said he did something bad, something really bad and he might get fined or suspended. Does anybody know if this took place in the fight, or if it was because he got arrested?
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Post #1 8/26/07 2:09:52PM
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nickcuc547
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he held on to a choke about 5-7 seconds after heath tapped, thats what sherdog.com said, he was also fined 25k, thats why he was booed.
the fight wasnt aired last night so i didnt see it but thats what sherdog said and he got fined so it must be true.
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Post #2 8/26/07 2:12:54PM
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DCRage
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What happened during the fight is Sobral won by submission but didn't let go of the hold after Heath tapped. Sobral claimed Heath said a "choice word" to him, presumably an expletive. The fans booed and as playing to the crowd (with encouragement from cornerman Josh Barnett), Sobral tossed a hat into the crowd after the fight. A fan who caught it tossed it back. Sobral will have $25,000 of his fight purse withheld as punishment.
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Post #3 8/26/07 2:13:58PM
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mk1630
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Thats a dumbass move holding onto the choke. Funny thing is i read Manny Gamburyan caught the hat and threw it back lol.
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Post #4 8/26/07 2:19:20PM
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kevietre
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I heard Heath wore a T-Shirt with BABALU's Mugshot on it which is disrespectful but no reason to hold onto a choke any longer than nessecary.
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Post #5 8/26/07 2:22:16PM
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nate22
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I've always thought Babalu had alot more composure than this. Obviously not, dick move by Heath, but two wrongs don't make a right, especially when we all know how dangerous holding on to a choke can be. It's not the type of event we need to see in UFC, glad it was on the undercard to be honest, entertaining or not.
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Post #6 8/26/07 3:25:54PM
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Posted by kevietre
I heard Heath wore a T-Shirt with BABALU's Mugshot on it which is disrespectful but no reason to hold onto a choke any longer than nessecary.
 that isn't right very disrespectful on heath's part but still no need for the extended choke
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Post #7 8/26/07 3:30:08PM
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Jackelope
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I don't know... no matter how mad he was I still think he should have had the self discipline to let go of the choke. For one any respectful school will teach you when training, sparring, or fighting you should never hold onto a choke unless it's a life threatening situation. For two, imagine the damage it could do to the sport if somebody died. We could literally see the UFC banned for something like that. I say take his whole ******* purse.
Last edited 8/26/07 10:35PM by svartorm
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Post #8 8/26/07 4:14:56PM
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Rush
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I just finished writing two letters to a newspaper editor, CCed to some ignorant sports writers supporting MMA and how it should be a considered a legitimate sport and now you (Babalu) give this asshole sports writer to publicly discredit my letter (if it gets published). Thanks a lot for running the sport down some more and potentially giving an ignorant sports writer an opportunity to publicly mock me.
Last edited 8/26/07 10:36PM by svartorm
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Post #9 8/26/07 4:57:33PM
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Jackelope
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Haha, yeah I had forgotten you wrote that. That does suck. Of course the punk will wait until this crap is all over the news before he publishes your letter. That sucks for ya, man.
I say they throw out any contract he has and ban him from the UFC. They'll ban Lindland for nothing, but watch Babalu stay in for this crap
Last edited 8/26/07 10:37PM by svartorm
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Post #10 8/26/07 5:02:51PM
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kaduey
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I hope you guys were this outraged when Gomi pulled a worse move on Azerado in Bushido or whne Royce Graice use to hold onto his submission for a few more seconds back in the day. Heath disrespected Babalu, so he deserved it.
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Post #11 8/26/07 5:23:47PM
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Jackelope
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Well, just look at what kind of struggles the UFC went through in the early days thanks to that kind of behavior and other kinds as well. The sport is well past that now and fighters should act accordingly.
I'm also not advocating outright disrespect of your opponent, either. Talking shit like that is for lame ass street fighters like Tank and Kimbo
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Post #12 8/26/07 5:26:36PM
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Rush
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Posted by Jackelope
Haha, yeah I had forgotten you wrote that. That does suck. Of course the punk will wait until this crap is all over the news before he publishes your letter. That sucks for ya, man.
I can probably intelligently rebuke any statement that this guy could make, but the problem is I don't have the freedom I would as if it were an open debate or forum. Unfortunately the press have the ability to publish things in a timely manner to further their own prejudices/image.
What I find is funny is that this guy hates MMA, which is fine and this Sorbral just gives him another reason to trash it. Yet, similar cases in other sports (Vick, Bryant, some of the hockey fiascoes) don't seem to tarnish the sports' legitimacy in this guys eyes. Hypocrisy in its purest form.
It may not mean much to you guys in the US, where it is 'legal', but it is not accepted in Canada outside of Quebec. Any bad press on MMA does not help get it legalized in Canada.
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Post #13 8/26/07 6:06:06PM
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jomatty
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i heard all the outrage on sherdog but when i watched the fight it was not 5-7 secondes it was more like 2-3 or so. still a completely dick move but no worse than bj did to pen and considerably better than gomi.
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Post #14 8/26/07 6:11:19PM
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owen1
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Heath deserved it more than Jens pulver and nothing happened to BJ.They should have the same punishment for both.Babulu should get fined but he deserves another chance.
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Post #15 8/26/07 7:31:59PM
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