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Who is the best pound-for-pound mixed martial artist on the planet? That simple question provokes more debate in the sport than any other.





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"To me the records were just a starting point," recalls John Paul Jones, "The most important thing was always the stage show. So many great nights. At our worst we were still better than most. At our best we could just wipe the floor with the lot of them. It was just a very good live band."

Post #1   8/12/07 10:03:24AM   

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they dont have wanderlei silva there??? he held the title for 7 years!!! yea he just lost his title but so did chuck, and beat rampage twice and chuck lost to rampage twice, and rampage before Nog? I think Nog is #2. Only losses are to Hendo which he erased with an armbar, Barnett which he erased a couple months later, and Fedor. his wins are a list of Who's who in MMA..... And randy couture top 10??.....very Biased top 10...

Post #2   8/12/07 10:35:07AM   

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Not biased, how is it biased. And for who? Does Yahoo work for UFC? It's a great top 10 except for Rampage that high. The top 5 is practically perfect.

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Posted by juanez13

they dont have wanderlei silva there??? he held the title for 7 years!!! yea he just lost his title but so did chuck, and beat rampage twice and chuck lost to rampage twice, and rampage before Nog? I think Nog is #2. Only losses are to Hendo which he erased with an armbar, Barnett which he erased a couple months later, and Fedor. his wins are a list of Who's who in MMA..... And randy couture top 10??.....very Biased top 10...



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Post #4   8/12/07 11:57:02AM   

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I think Gomi is better, than BJ Penn.
Rampage was a little high, I agree I think Wanderlei should have been on there. The top 2 were dead on perfect, I think Silva should have been 3.

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Posted by AmericanFighterAce

I think Gomi is better, than BJ Penn.
Rampage was a little high, I agree I think Wanderlei should have been on there. The top 2 were dead on perfect, I think Silva should have been 3.




i bet if bj and gomi fought again bj would be 2-0 against takanori

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Posted by Sam_Rothstein


Posted by AmericanFighterAce

I think Gomi is better, than BJ Penn.
Rampage was a little high, I agree I think Wanderlei should have been on there. The top 2 were dead on perfect, I think Silva should have been 3.




i bet if bj and gomi fought again bj would be 2-0 against takanori



Gomi has developed into the best striker in his division since then. If BJ stood with him, he'd get destroyed.

As for the mmamath response, I agree. However, I do think Wanderlei should be ranked, definitely ahead of Chuck. He had a longer reign, beat better fighters, and was unbeatable for years. Getting knocked out by CC, and then Hendo, doesn't cause a guy who wouldve been top 2 to drop off the face of the earth.

Post #7   8/12/07 6:33:29PM   

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Gomi has developed into the best striker in his division since then. If BJ stood with him, he'd get destroyed.

As for the mmamath response, I agree. However, I do think Wanderlei should be ranked, definitely ahead of Chuck. He had a longer reign, beat better fighters, and was unbeatable for years. Getting knocked out by CC, and then Hendo, doesn't cause a guy who wouldve been top 2 to drop off the face of the earth.


I agree about Wanderlei. I disagree about BJ though. I think it would be a good fight and tough to call, but I'm not sure BJ would get "destroyed" on his feet by anyone within his weight.

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Posted by ocho-cinco

Gomi has developed into the best striker in his division since then. If BJ stood with him, he'd get destroyed.

As for the mmamath response, I agree. However, I do think Wanderlei should be ranked, definitely ahead of Chuck. He had a longer reign, beat better fighters, and was unbeatable for years. Getting knocked out by CC, and then Hendo, doesn't cause a guy who wouldve been top 2 to drop off the face of the earth.



I agree about Wanderlei. I disagree about BJ though. I think it would be a good fight and tough to call, but I'm not sure BJ would get "destroyed" on his feet by anyone within his weight.


Lol if BJ stood with Gomi he would get knocked out. For sure.

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Posted by ocho-cinco

Lol if BJ stood with Gomi he would get knocked out. For sure.



Possible? Yes. For Sure? definitely not. In my opinion Gomi, although great, is among the most overrated fighters, and in a rematch i would predict Penn

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Posted by ocho-cinco

Lol if BJ stood with Gomi he would get knocked out. For sure.



Possible? Yes. For Sure? definitely not. In my opinion Gomi, although great, is among the most overrated fighters, and in a rematch i would predict Penn



If anything Gomi is underrated. Before his fights with Aurelio and Diaz (only 2 fights) look at what he did. That was superior to any run anybody else including Penn has ever had at LW/LWW. His striking has developed into the best in his weightclass (in PRIDE or UFC), In SHOOTO he was a very good wrestler, with good gnp and good submission offense. His grappling offense is underrated, most of his early fights were subs and world class wrestling, but he wasn't developed as a striker and Hansen took advantage of that, and then Penn did in his next fight. After that he worked on his boxing, and he found out (ala Chuck for the UFC fans) that he has incredible power with his shots. Unlike Chuck, he developed supreme footwork, which is evident in all of his destructions vs Sakurai, Ishida, Kawajiri, Azeredo etc. He has angles the most reminscent of a real boxer, when he's not fatigued laying against the ropes laughing at Diaz' punches as he wings sloppy wild haymakers (which still managed to make Diaz face look like hamburger meat and also drop him). People forget Gomi almost stopped Diaz at the begging and middle of the first round, and was the one who initiated the takedown in the 2nd round. He was never hurt by Diaz standing once, he was fatigued, because like CC he can be cocky and overlook opponents. That's what happened vs Maximus, and in the rematch he took the conservative Silva-Arona 2 approach and won the decision. Sakurai was long regarded as the best striker in the weight class and Gomi gave him a clinic. He boxed a former boxer named Jens Pulver (before his KO loss vs Sakurai which damaged Pulver) and showed his striking capabilities, ending it with another brutal uppercut knockout. Azeredo was an annihalation the first time.

Gomi would destroy Penn standing, if you don't see that or agree that's fine. His only real defense is lack of training, and sub defense. Sure BJ could tap him, but it's 50-50, with Gomi dominating the striking Penn would have more trouble shooting. Penn isn't known to be a cardio machine himself so I don't know how you can call Gomi overrated. All these casual PRIDE fans who never saw his BUSHIDO fights or understand amazing technical striking when they see it, not to mention brutal power, are the ones who call him overrated.

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Post #11   8/13/07 2:31:14PM   

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I didn't want to read all that sorry

well right now Fedor is PFP the best But Anderson Silva is vary close with all his dominating wins the last year if his fights keep going this way in another year he could be voted the PFP best

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