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I had been contemplating what exactly was the difference between consciousness and awareness (it seems simple at first glance) and this is what I came up with.

Consciousness is the collective name for the processes which give us the capacity to be aware. To be aware, there must be something which one can be aware of. So awareness is the state which results from consciousness coming into contact with its environment.

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Posted by JewJitsu

I had been contemplating what exactly was the difference between consciousness and awareness (it seems simple at first glance) and this is what I came up with.

Consciousness is the collective name for the processes which give us the capacity to be aware. To be aware, there must be something which one can be aware of. So awareness is the state which results from consciousness coming into contact with its environment.

All thoughts, input, rebuttals, and insults are welcome.



Consciousness is relationship between thought and ones environment, but awareness is a more subjective term to describe the same thing.

"Cogito ergo sum" or I think, therefore I am. From René Descartes' "Principles of Philosophy" It basically means that your thought is the only thing that you can depend on to exist. The things that you are aware of and that you are thinking about could in fact be imaginary. Everything that you know about could be brought about be a "deceiving demon". There might be no earth, air, or water. They all may exist only in your head, but the fact that they can exist in your head proves the only thing that you can prove. I think, therefore I am.

As this relates to consciousness, thinking is a base element of self. Consciousness is deliberate think about the perceived environment (self included). Awareness may not be limited to deliberate thinking or the perceived environment.

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Posted by szucconi
There might be no earth, air, or water. They all may exist only in your head, but the fact that they can exist in your head proves the only thing that you can prove. I think, therefore I am.



Slight detour of topic, but: For anyone that deals with meditative states, ecstatic ritual, visualization and the like, you know this to be extremely true.

Interestingly enough, I read an interview with Fedor where he explained the way he prepares for a fight is to imagine the guy hes fighting is going to take all his money away and make his family starve, and by making myself believe that, hes determined never to lose a fight.

Sorry, just had to throw that out there.

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Posted by szucconi
"Cogito ergo sum" or I think, therefore I am. From René Descartes' "Principles of Philosophy" It basically means that your thought is the only thing that you can depend on to exist. The things that you are aware of and that you are thinking about could in fact be imaginary. Everything that you know about could be brought about be a "deceiving demon". There might be no earth, air, or water. They all may exist only in your head, but the fact that they can exist in your head proves the only thing that you can prove. I think, therefore I am.



René Descartes walks into a bar.

The bar tender asks, "something to drink?"

Descartes replies "I think not," and immediately disappears.

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Posted by szucconi
"Cogito ergo sum" or I think, therefore I am. From René Descartes' "Principles of Philosophy" It basically means that your thought is the only thing that you can depend on to exist. The things that you are aware of and that you are thinking about could in fact be imaginary. Everything that you know about could be brought about be a "deceiving demon". There might be no earth, air, or water. They all may exist only in your head, but the fact that they can exist in your head proves the only thing that you can prove. I think, therefore I am.



René Descartes walks into a bar.

The bar tender asks, "something to drink?"

Descartes replies "I think not," and immediately disappears.



good joke, made me laugh

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Posted by szucconi
"Cogito ergo sum" or I think, therefore I am. From René Descartes' "Principles of Philosophy" It basically means that your thought is the only thing that you can depend on to exist. The things that you are aware of and that you are thinking about could in fact be imaginary. Everything that you know about could be brought about be a "deceiving demon". There might be no earth, air, or water. They all may exist only in your head, but the fact that they can exist in your head proves the only thing that you can prove. I think, therefore I am.



René Descartes walks into a bar.

The bar tender asks, "something to drink?"

Descartes replies "I think not," and immediately disappears.



It is a fine joke, but there is a problem. Descartes would never turn down a drink.

Please find the song called "Bruces' Philosophers Song" from Monty Python and listen to in now. "I drink, therefore I am"

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Consciousness implies understanding, but awareness does not? Unless we're talking about self-awareness, in which case that would be the fact that we are aware of our awareness, which could be seen as understanding...

Or something like that anyways... I took a philosophy class many years ago, and was always confused by the seperation of consciousness (phenomanal and access) and awareness... To me it seemed that P-consciousness was the same as general awareness...

Post #7   8/10/07 3:58:12PM