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Well it's good to know that I'm not too far off.

As for Couture... I would have put him up there but I've been more impressed with his ground and pound/takedowns than his actual rolling around jiu jitsu submission fighting. Like I said, I don't know much about grappling and I love Couture, but I was speaking on a jiu jitsu/sambo basis.

To be honest after being overseas for the past 4 years I'm way out of touch with the MMA world and I hadn't seen any Mir fights since a while back. I didn't know the crash affected him that bad. That's terrible :( I really liked the way he fought

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No one mentioned Roger Gracie yet?

If we are talking just pure grapping skill, he's got to be towards the top of the list.
First person (still the only, I think) to submit all his opponents in Abu Dhabi.

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Posted by Manfred

No one mentioned Roger Gracie yet?

If we are talking just pure grapping skill, he's got to be towards the top of the list.
First person (still the only, I think) to submit all his opponents in Abu Dhabi.


Very true but he has one fight so it's easy to forget. He should carry on the grappling Gracie name or a long time. Good point.

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Mir??? cmon man. the guy is good at BJJ not great. he subs strikers not ground fighters.
For Grappling HW's gotta say Monson, Fedor, Gabriel Gonzaga, Nog, and Barnett.

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Posted by Manfred

No one mentioned Roger Gracie yet?

If we are talking just pure grapping skill, he's got to be towards the top of the list.
First person (still the only, I think) to submit all his opponents in Abu Dhabi.



That he wasnt the first to do. He was the first guy to win his weight class and the Absolute (all weights compete) divsion by sub. (Ps he was a LHW and beat HW)

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I love to watch Big Nog, but Gonzaga looks to be pretty good on the ground.



I agree, Einemo is one talented guy, just wish he would take more fights.

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who the hell is Einemo???? are you talking about Fedor?

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No one mentioned Roger Gracie yet?

If we are talking just pure grapping skill, he's got to be towards the top of the list.
First person (still the only, I think) to submit all his opponents in Abu Dhabi.



That he wasnt the first to do. He was the first guy to win his weight class and the Absolute (all weights compete) divsion by sub. (Ps he was a LHW and beat HW)



Thanks for the correction. He's also won a bunch of BJJ championships. So you agree he's one of the top grappling HWs?

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Posted by waylon_o

Big Nog is in a class of his own when it comes to grappling heavyweights.



Totally, I mean, didn't you see him poan Ricco to death by letting him get that kneebar so he could transition to his back?!

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Posted by waylon_o

Big Nog is in a class of his own when it comes to grappling heavyweights.



Totally, I mean, didn't you see him poan Ricco to death by letting him get that kneebar so he could transition to his back?!



IMO Ricco won that fight. Hometown decision for a guy on loan from the UFC, Great grappling action from both guys though.

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No one mentioned Roger Gracie yet?

If we are talking just pure grapping skill, he's got to be towards the top of the list.
First person (still the only, I think) to submit all his opponents in Abu Dhabi.



That he wasnt the first to do. He was the first guy to win his weight class and the Absolute (all weights compete) divsion by sub. (Ps he was a LHW and beat HW)



Thanks for the correction. He's also won a bunch of BJJ championships. So you agree he's one of the top grappling HWs?


I would except he is a LHW................................
And he has only fought one MMA match so. its a bit early. Just cuz ur a World Champion in BJJ doesnt mean your awesome at MMA. Lister just got beat by Nate and Lister is a world class Grappler.

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Posted by waylon_o

Big Nog is in a class of his own when it comes to grappling heavyweights.



Totally, I mean, didn't you see him poan Ricco to death by letting him get that kneebar so he could transition to his back?!



IMO Ricco won that fight. Hometown decision for a guy on loan from the UFC, Great grappling action from both guys though.


Ricco did Beat Nog in a Submission Grappling Tournament so Ricco is a awesome Grappler.

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Einemo is a stud! Who many guys would make a comeback like he did against Werdum (who is very underrated by the way). He was out 3 years because of an injury and did very good. Werdum wouldn`t be on the ground with him and that says a lot..

i vote Einemo. 2003 ADCC champ

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Posted by Jackelope

Well it's good to know that I'm not too far off.

As for Couture... I would have put him up there but I've been more impressed with his ground and pound/takedowns than his actual rolling around jiu jitsu submission fighting. Like I said, I don't know much about grappling and I love Couture, but I was speaking on a jiu jitsu/sambo basis.

To be honest after being overseas for the past 4 years I'm way out of touch with the MMA world and I hadn't seen any Mir fights since a while back. I didn't know the crash affected him that bad. That's terrible :( I really liked the way he fought


Mir got rattled by it but thats not why he shouldnt be on this list. He made his name in the UFC subbin Tank Abbot, Pete Williams, Tim Sylvia, and countless ohters. Who were strikers. Mir is only a brown Belt in BJJ. Yet he showed what GRacie JJ can do to those not well versed in it. It was similiar to Royce entering the Octagon in the Early days of the UFC.

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