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Posted by nubby
After hearing that Hams left Big Bear and that Bisbing is going to start training there I immediately thought to myself that Bisbing was going to knock the socks off Hams. I thought it was just plain stupid to leave Tito's camp when Tito is one of the top GnP guys around. Hams definitely needed to learn better striking and better BJJ though. Tito could help with the BJJ but the striking was something he needed to seek out some where else.
Why would Matt leave that Camp??????
IMO that is a very bad move. Unless he is jumping ship to some other huge team like AKA or MFS, but it still doesnt make much sense.
And no Bisping is going up to big bear to train.
Doesnt Rampage train out of Titos Camp up there or does he have his own gym? and are they just friends now and not training partners.
Edit: oh yeah Bisping by flying Knee.
Last edited 7/23/07 8:18PM server time by madmarck
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Post #16 7/23/07 8:17:31PM
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Bisping deserves a much better fight then Hammil, Bisping should be fighting chuck instead of Jardine. Bisping would definately beat Jardine! Not quite ready to beat Chuck but tons better than Jardine. This will be less than 3 minutes into the first round and Hamil will be out Cold! No disrespect to Hamil but Bisping is much better than him right now. Hamil at 185 in a year or so Maybe. As for wrestling only, You CANNOT win anymore in MMA with Wrestling only!!!!!
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Post #17 7/23/07 8:51:47PM
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Bisping v. Lidell would be a great fight.
In fact, Jardine v. Hamill would have been a decent fight on the same card, come to think of it.
Perhaps Bisping/Lidell will happen,. after they both dispatch thier current speed bumps.
*shrug*
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Post #18 7/23/07 9:22:25PM
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I agree that Bisbing is a much better all around fighter but he has not fought anyone good in the UFC. Plus I think Sherk has proven you can win with only wrestling.
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Post #19 7/23/07 9:24:17PM
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Dont be suprised when Hammil's Hand is raised.
His downfall is his chin , it is suspect, as well as his born condition. I agree that he would be very good at 185, but he is still going to be good at 205, Franklin like.
Wrestling is enough to win, look at people like Sherk, Couture, even to an extent Tito. All good wrestlers with average or so striking, who take their opponet to the ground and pound them into stoppage/submission. im hesitatnt to throw Kos in that bracket cause i cant stand him but he is a candidate for that as well.
Matt IS going to get a takedown, a wrestler as good as him its inevitable. We will get to see just how good Bisping is on the ground, when he is on his back with a dominate wrestler on top of him.
This is a good fight for both guys, Bisping hs a lot to prove on the ground still, and Matt still believes like many that he could have been the winner.
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Matt wins late in the first round by TKO. GnP will prevail.
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Post #20 7/23/07 9:48:28PM
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Wow ... who said tht bisping would beat jardine .... wow ur on his band wagon 2 much both of bispings fights post the haynes won had been stopped 2 earley and he was in danger in both ... for ex eric shaffer had his back in tht fight and took him down like 3 times and sinosic had in a tight kimura .... if jardine had those he would be out ... and i think ur ridiculous bisping over jardine ha .... maybe in the future but not now ... but he will beat hamil
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Post #21 7/24/07 1:06:51AM
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Man im really pulling for hamill but i dont see it happenin.
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Post #22 7/24/07 1:29:33AM
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Bisbing did dominate those fights and still won
all that said it just show that hes good under pressure
Bisging is gonna win by TKO in the 2nd rd His stand up is too goond and he will be watching for those takedowns so thats where hes gonna be aiming his shots
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Post #23 7/24/07 2:58:03AM
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Posted by quezocrema0032
Wow ... who said tht bisping would beat jardine .... wow ur on his band wagon 2 much both of bispings fights post the haynes won had been stopped 2 earley and he was in danger in both ... for ex eric shaffer had his back in tht fight and took him down like 3 times and sinosic had in a tight kimura .... if jardine had those he would be out ... and i think ur ridiculous bisping over jardine ha .... maybe in the future but not now ... but he will beat hamil
no one did
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Post #24 7/24/07 9:51:48AM
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Posted by kbogarto
Posted by quezocrema0032
Wow ... who said tht bisping would beat jardine .... wow ur on his band wagon 2 much both of bispings fights post the haynes won had been stopped 2 earley and he was in danger in both ... for ex eric shaffer had his back in tht fight and took him down like 3 times and sinosic had in a tight kimura .... if jardine had those he would be out ... and i think ur ridiculous bisping over jardine ha .... maybe in the future but not now ... but he will beat hamil
no one did
haha is he saying Jardine's submissions are better than Sinosic's????
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Post #25 7/24/07 12:30:36PM
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I agree with TOMMYAYO05 I'd love to see hamill win and it could happen but right now bisping is problet the superior fighter.
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Post #26 7/24/07 9:00:37PM
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Posted by chiefwiggum
I may be the only one not looking forward to this fight. To be honest neither fighter have impressed me yet.
Im there with you. I want to see Bisping get a quality fight so that I may make money betting against him. I thought Elvis made him look beatable at times.
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Post #27 7/25/07 7:24:15PM
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That's because his ground game needs work. If Bisping loses it will be due to his lacking ground skills. Ironically that is exactly what Hams is better at. If hams learned how to ground and pound it could be a long night for the Count.
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Post #28 7/25/07 7:33:27PM
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