Who is the greatest UFC fighter of all-time? |
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x_soa_x
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Out of that list, and based on the criteria described in first post, Matt Hughes. However, I don't think that Hughes is the best. BJ Penn dominated him in both of their fights, only losing the second because he popped a rib. (Rib injuries will screw almost anyone up.) GSP also destroyed him in their second fight, and Matt in his last fight he was decidedly lackluster.
And of course, once we go onto the topic of losses, only one candidate for greatest fighter ever (not just in the UFC) has no truly legitimate losses, and that's Fedor.
Besides, this sport hasn't been a sport for NEARLY long enough to declare anyone "best ever." Someone entirely unknown one day might come along and utterly destroy Fedor, or the top fighter in some other weight class.
Or hell, someone from way back when, before MMA was really organised, might be the best ever. Like say, Kimura.
Anyways, my point is, we can all have our opinions, but it's gonna be a while before we can really tell.
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Post #16 7/19/07 5:29:14AM
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masodd
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i would say randy or royce
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Post #17 7/19/07 12:50:39PM
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MissGSP
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MATT HUGHES FO SHO
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Post #18 7/19/07 12:55:30PM
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komodo20
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Greatest UFC fighter of all-time is Chuck liddell
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Post #19 7/19/07 1:37:58PM
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LHK
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Posted by komodo20
Greatest UFC fighter of all-time is Chuck liddell
No...but he is probably the greatest paper champ (or ex-champ that is  ). He'll never hold a belt again.
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Post #20 7/19/07 3:18:19PM
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LHK
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Posted by x_soa_x
Out of that list, and based on the criteria described in first post, Matt Hughes. However, I don't think that Hughes is the best. BJ Penn dominated him in both of their fights, only losing the second because he popped a rib. (Rib injuries will screw almost anyone up.) GSP also destroyed him in their second fight, and Matt in his last fight he was decidedly lackluster.
And of course, once we go onto the topic of losses, only one candidate for greatest fighter ever (not just in the UFC) has no truly legitimate losses, and that's Fedor.
Besides, this sport hasn't been a sport for NEARLY long enough to declare anyone "best ever." Someone entirely unknown one day might come along and utterly destroy Fedor, or the top fighter in some other weight class.
Or hell, someone from way back when, before MMA was really organised, might be the best ever. Like say, Kimura.
Anyways, my point is, we can all have our opinions, but it's gonna be a while before we can really tell.
Good points, but the question can still be answered within the scope of the sport so far. And the question asked UFC, so Fedor can't be included. Also, anyone (like Kimura) way before UFC isn't included. The most skilled AND the most dominant MMA fighter in the UFC is easily Matt Hughes. No question.
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Post #21 7/19/07 3:21:09PM
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komodo20
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Posted by LHK
Posted by komodo20
Greatest UFC fighter of all-time is Chuck liddell
No...but he is probably the greatest paper champ (or ex-champ that is ). He'll never hold a belt again.
what
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Post #22 7/19/07 3:25:48PM
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szucconi
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Posted by komodo20
Posted by LHK
Posted by komodo20
Greatest UFC fighter of all-time is Chuck liddell
No...but he is probably the greatest paper champ (or ex-champ that is ). He'll never hold a belt again.
what
Are you hard of hearing? Would you like hime to speak up? What, is not a compeling response. He disagrees with you. I disagree with both of you. Liddell is a great fighter by not well rounded. He was protected as a champ, but he fought tough fights. They were just all good match ups for him. For example, he fough, Ortiz a former champ, and seemed to own him. He never beat a high level standup fighter.
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Post #23 7/19/07 3:40:03PM
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Agree ... randy isn't even in the same league record wise.
People just really like randy thats why he is so high in the votes. To me thats being bias, and not honest. No disrespect to randy though the guy is awesome!
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Matt Hughes. He's got the most impressive record I've probably ever seen in MMA, with most of his fights coming by stoppages. He's beaten everyone the UFC has thrown at him, he's probably the most dominant champion in UFC history, and he still has a few years left in him.
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Post #24 7/19/07 3:42:34PM
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fedorwins1
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Randy, he's done the impossible so many times.
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Post #25 7/19/07 4:13:35PM
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Chris_Keppel
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People don't take this personal and don't let it rub your anal the wrong way...
I'd say Matt Hughes and Chuck Liddell.
Now now, before one get's offended it's like this...
Both of them "broke records" or "set the bar" as the Champions within the UFC.
Dominating their fights in their Title Defenses, over, and over, and over.
Hell, let's face it... they were the champions forever. Which makes them the greatest.
Obviously Royce Gracie get's a lot of props in this catagory too, but he should of never came back and fought Hughes, that was just ridiculous.
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Post #26 7/19/07 4:35:40PM
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LHK
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Posted by Chris_Keppel
People don't take this personal and don't let it rub your anal the wrong way...
I'd say Matt Hughes and Chuck Liddell.
Now now, before one get's offended it's like this...
Both of them "broke records" or "set the bar" as the Champions within the UFC.
Dominating their fights in their Title Defenses, over, and over, and over.
Hell, let's face it... they were the champions forever. Which makes them the greatest.
Obviously Royce Gracie get's a lot of props in this catagory too, but he should of never came back and fought Hughes, that was just ridiculous.
There is no comparison between what Hughes and Liddell did. Hughes fought some hard competition (not tailor-made gimmes), but the biggest difference is Hughes POSSESSES SKILL, whereas Liddell does not. And look at their records, Hughes fought twice as much without losing (albeit not in the UFC). If Liddell stays around for too many more fights, they will be losses (unless Dana keeps feeding him cans).
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Post #27 7/19/07 9:25:28PM
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KYGUY07
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i hate to say it but i gotta go with hughes.
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Post #28 7/20/07 2:34:53PM
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x_soa_x
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Posted by LHK
Posted by x_soa_x
Out of that list, and based on the criteria described in first post, Matt Hughes. However, I don't think that Hughes is the best. BJ Penn dominated him in both of their fights, only losing the second because he popped a rib. (Rib injuries will screw almost anyone up.) GSP also destroyed him in their second fight, and Matt in his last fight he was decidedly lackluster.
And of course, once we go onto the topic of losses, only one candidate for greatest fighter ever (not just in the UFC) has no truly legitimate losses, and that's Fedor.
Besides, this sport hasn't been a sport for NEARLY long enough to declare anyone "best ever." Someone entirely unknown one day might come along and utterly destroy Fedor, or the top fighter in some other weight class.
Or hell, someone from way back when, before MMA was really organised, might be the best ever. Like say, Kimura.
Anyways, my point is, we can all have our opinions, but it's gonna be a while before we can really tell.
Good points, but the question can still be answered within the scope of the sport so far. And the question asked UFC, so Fedor can't be included. Also, anyone (like Kimura) way before UFC isn't included. The most skilled AND the most dominant MMA fighter in the UFC is easily Matt Hughes. No question.
I knew that, and I clearly changed the subject of my post to greatest ever in MMA and it's various predecessors.
And eh, I disagree about Hughes being the most skilled. Most dominant, obviously, he's beat everyone. But, he was severely outclassed against GSP in their last fight. He was outwrestled and outstruck, plain and simple.
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Post #29 7/21/07 8:07:00PM
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LHK
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I won't say it was an off night for Hughes in his last match with GSP, but it definitely wasn't the best Hughes we've seen. He's not a good enough striker yet to hang with GSP in a kickboxing match, which is what he was trying to do. I think he learned his lesson.
Now they're 1-1. Rubber match for the superior fighter.
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Post #30 7/21/07 11:04:30PM
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