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He's Back...
Career record: 163-86
Season: 0-0 (#9125)
Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted by xphycorx
he's not one of the top 5 lightweights?? who is??????
Id rank all of these guys ahead of Florian: Sherk, Franca, Griffin, Huerta, Guilliard, Stevenson, Edgar, Nate Diaz, Manny, Lauzon, Maynard, Garcia... Do you want me to continue? Remember this is only UFC, if you want to talk world rankings, Ill have to start another thread. lol
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Post #16 7/13/07 9:01:23PM
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TOMMYAYO05
Belt Contender
Career record: 157-77
Season: 42-19 (#3568)
Location: YUCTOWN,CALI
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Id rank all of these guys ahead of Florian: Sherk, Franca, Griffin, Huerta, Guilliard, Stevenson, Edgar, Nate Diaz, Manny, Lauzon, Maynard, Garcia... Do you want me to continue? Remember this is only UFC, if you want to talk world rankings, Ill have to start another thread. lol
 there would be at least 15 fighters in front of him
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Post #17 7/13/07 9:19:48PM
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Canadian_MM_EH
Banned
Career record: 54-34
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Canada
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Kenny should get some respect, he finished Sam, Mishima, and went 5 rounds with the champ.
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Post #18 7/13/07 10:32:05PM
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He's Back...
Career record: 163-86
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Location: Sacramento, CA
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I definitely respect him, and think he will be awesome in 2 or so years, but right now, just not top 10 IMO. Hes good though, and has a ton of potential.
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Post #19 7/13/07 10:43:41PM
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KYGUY07
In Full Mount
Career record: 193-102
Season: 42-28 (#1653)
Location: KY
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i would put florian at like number 5 lw in the ufc right now
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Post #20 7/13/07 10:52:47PM
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elysianwing
MMA Regular
Career record: 190-136
Season: 38-28 (#2118)
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Posted by rcg916
Posted by xphycorx
he's not one of the top 5 lightweights?? who is??????
Id rank all of these guys ahead of Florian: Sherk, Franca, Griffin, Huerta, Guilliard, Stevenson, Edgar, Nate Diaz, Manny, Lauzon, Maynard, Garcia... Do you want me to continue? Remember this is only UFC, if you want to talk world rankings, Ill have to start another thread. lol
Remember though, the 'debate' is about who is ranked higher in the ufc lw division, not who are arguably better fighters than him(for the record, I personally, do think the majority of them are better fighters than him, and would probably tool him in a fight).
The bolded names easily rank higher than Kenny, but the rest should probably have a few more wins/fights in the ufc before they can slide above him. Most of them have only had 2-4 fights in the ufc....Florian has had a couple more, hence his higher rank.
If I was to rank the division...the first three are beyond obvious imo :
1. Sherk
2. Franca
3. Fisher(who you forgot)
but then 4-5 are actually a lot closer than people want to make it sound. Florian probably IS actually 4th or 5th...and Griffin or Huerta should occupy the last slot.
Obviously the weight class is stacked to the ceiling, but you can't say these guys with a pair of fights(in the ufc) under their belts are actually ranked higher(in the ufc) without showing massive bias against Kenny.
Last edited 7/14/07 7:19AM by elysianwing
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Post #21 7/14/07 7:18:58AM
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Career record: 204-116
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Posted by elysianwing
Remember though, the 'debate' is about who is ranked higher in the ufc lw division, not who are arguably better fighters than him(for the record, I personally, do think the majority of them are better fighters than him, and would probably tool him in a fight).
The bolded names easily rank higher than Kenny, but the rest should probably have a few more wins/fights in the ufc before they can slide above him. Most of them have only had 2-4 fights in the ufc....Florian has had a couple more, hence his higher rank.
If I was to rank the division...the first three are beyond obvious imo :
1. Sherk
2. Franca
3. Fisher(who you forgot)
but then 4-5 are actually a lot closer than people want to make it sound. Florian probably IS actually 4th or 5th...and Griffin or Huerta should occupy the last slot.
Obviously the weight class is stacked to the ceiling, but you can't say these guys with a pair of fights(in the ufc) under their belts are actually ranked higher(in the ufc) without showing massive bias against Kenny.
You completely forgot BJ. Also, you've got Griffin in there, which is fine, but Edgar had his number...and you didn't inlclude him. Before I would put Florian in the top 5, I would like to see him fight someone like Din Thomas first.
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Post #22 7/14/07 9:54:25AM
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Mattyc
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 101-77
Season: 12-12 (#6500)
Location: Toronto
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Posted by grappler0000
Posted by elysianwing
Remember though, the 'debate' is about who is ranked higher in the ufc lw division, not who are arguably better fighters than him(for the record, I personally, do think the majority of them are better fighters than him, and would probably tool him in a fight).
The bolded names easily rank higher than Kenny, but the rest should probably have a few more wins/fights in the ufc before they can slide above him. Most of them have only had 2-4 fights in the ufc....Florian has had a couple more, hence his higher rank.
If I was to rank the division...the first three are beyond obvious imo :
1. Sherk
2. Franca
3. Fisher(who you forgot)
but then 4-5 are actually a lot closer than people want to make it sound. Florian probably IS actually 4th or 5th...and Griffin or Huerta should occupy the last slot.
Obviously the weight class is stacked to the ceiling, but you can't say these guys with a pair of fights(in the ufc) under their belts are actually ranked higher(in the ufc) without showing massive bias against Kenny.
You completely forgot BJ. Also, you've got Griffin in there, which is fine, but Edgar had his number...and you didn't inlclude him. Before I would put Florian in the top 5, I would like to see him fight someone like Din Thomas first.
I agree with you on this... I actually Think Din Thomas should be top 5 myself or close to it.. over Griffin. Florian is exciting, he gives the fans what they want. Dont get me wrong, Sherk gave a dominant performance, and owned franca in all aspects of the fight,.. but after doing the exact same thing for 25 minutes it does get a little boring to your average fan.(hence the booing) I respect Kenny for saying that because he simply gave the fans what they wanted to see. but as far as top 5 go...
1. Sherk
2. Franca
3. Fisher or Din Thomas\ really close on these ones
4. Fisher or Din Thomas/
5. Huerta or Edgar as they've been beating a lot of guys, but they need a step up in the competition.
BJ in my opinion is better than any of these guys listed but looking at his last fights he is 1-2 with only beating Pulver, who got knocked out by one of the competitiors on TUF
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