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Shamrock won't return to UFC

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Dana White, however, has other ideas, as the UFC President stated today that the 43-year-old legend had his contract terminated with one fight left on it, meaning he will no longer fight for the organization.

"I like Ken Shamrock," White said in a conference call. "If I saw him tomorrow, I'd say hello to him and see how his family is and everything else. He needs to think about retiring."

Shamrock has lost six of his last seven MMA fights, including three in a row in the UFC. His only win came against fellow 40-something Kimo Leopoldo.

"He has lost every fight he's had in UFC except for one," White said. "He's just not at that level anymore as a UFC fighter.

"He lost to Tito Ortiz three times," White continued. "He lost to Rich Franklin, who's a 185-pounder. Before we picked him up from PRIDE, he'd lost like six fights in a row in PRIDE. (In actuality, Shamrock lost three of four PRIDE fights.)

In other news, White said that the company was hoping to have Chuck Liddell back in the octagon in November, though his opponent is still not yet known. White at one time had alluded to a possible fight with Wanderlai Silva, but said now that it was no longer a certainty.

In regards to the PRIDE sale, he acknowledged that the company is in a bit of disarray, and that bringing fighters over to the UFC is a way to keep them active while the future of PRIDE is decided.

"They went out of business for a reason," he said. "Because that company's a mess. We're trying to figure it out and fix it. We've got a lot going on with the UFC. We opened an office in the UK and other things going on, we have a lot going on and these things take time. It's a lot more complicated and messed-up than we thought it was. PRIDE is a very powerful brand and I honestly don't know what is going to happen. We bought it with the intention of running it but it's a seriously messed-up company, so we're trying to figure it out.

Finally, despite a recent report in Variety which stated the UFC-HBO deal was likely not going to happen, White insisted it's "far from dead."

Post #1   7/3/07 7:41:30PM   

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Ken is to old and can't fight no more

Post #2   7/3/07 8:00:11PM   

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I'd like to see him take 07 off, and maybe in 08 he can come back for a super fight!

Post #3   7/3/07 8:05:29PM   

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dana white should fight shamrock. I dont mind seeing dana getting a smack.

Post #4   7/3/07 9:49:14PM   

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Posted by komodo20
"He has lost every fight he's had in UFC except for one," White said. "He's just not at that level anymore as a UFC fighter.




How incorrect is this. Ken Shamrock has won 7 fights in the UFC.

Get it though your head Dana, the UFC existed before you bought it.

Post #5   7/3/07 11:31:38PM   

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you cant tell me theres not one person ken shamrock could fight

granted he has got the shit kicked out of him the last 4 fights but he keeps fighting top 10 fighters. i'd pay to watch him fight maybe like a new fighter in the ufc. might be interesting

ah what do i know

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Posted by komodo20
"He has lost every fight he's had in UFC except for one," White said. "He's just not at that level anymore as a UFC fighter.




How incorrect is this. Ken Shamrock has won 7 fights in the UFC.

Get it though your head Dana, the UFC existed before you bought it.



yea but it was totaly different. it was like a tournament. and all one weight class i think. pretty sure it was cuz gracie was fighting guys twice his size and weight.

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yea but it was totaly different. it was like a tournament. and all one weight class i think. pretty sure it was cuz gracie was fighting guys twice his size and weight.



Out of the seven wins he has in the UFC, 4 of them are against guys that are over 200lbs (Kimo x2, Severn and Patrick Smith). He fought Oleg to a draw (Oleg is also over 200lbs)

I am not sure about the weights of Leninger and Mitchell, but they are probably under 200lbs and of course Gracie is under 200lbs too. Keep in mind that he did not beat Gracie.

All in all, I don't think weight was really a factor and I think the tournament makes it harder to win. The calibre of opponents will always be debatable.

More so my point was not to debate whether or not the 'old' UFC is the same or different than the 'new' UFC, but rather to state that Dana White's comment was incorrect (by a long shot).

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yea but some people who fought in the tourament had no right or skill to be their. and lots of fight were won really really fast

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Ken isnt as bad as Dana makes him sound i mean he fought Tito twice in a row and Franklin lets see ummmm two ex champs...Dana needs to get smarter.

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Posted by TOMMYAYO05

Ken isnt as bad as Dana makes him sound i mean he fought Tito twice in a row and Franklin lets see ummmm two ex champs...Dana needs to get smarter.



The point Dana was making is that Tito completely dominated him and then Franklin hammered him and Franklin fights at 185.

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Ah well. Thats a shame, but then. who would be left for him to fight. Having been beaten by Tito I can imagine him needing time to get some respect back. But hey, I watched Ken vs Otsuka last night on the Pride 2000 Grand Prix, and Ken was on excellent form that night, despite the power cut!

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Ken Shamrock had his time and at 43 he's no Randy Couture.

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Posted by sirc625

Ken Shamrock had his time and at 43 he's no Randy Couture.




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Yeah i guess his time is done.unless he shows everyone different

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