Diaz vs gomi ruling !!!???? |
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keith-hackney1
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Career record: 180-150
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Sorry if im abit behind with the times guys, but i have just noticed that nsac ruled diaz's victory over gomi as a no contest due to pot being found in blood. Correct me if im wrong but, marajuana is not a performance inhancing drug, they are wrong to strip him of that win. Diaz could of walked into a bar where pot had been smoked. breathed it in then fought gomi soon after, that doesnt mean he actually smoked it himself !!??
Fair enough if it was a form of steriods found like gracie, but come on, weed ??
Weed is everywhere, people smoke it all over the place, it would be very hard for a fighter at some point in his career, not to accidently breath it in by chance !!
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Post #1 6/30/07 5:36:04PM
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Jiu-Jistu Bean
Career record: 164-106
Season: 10-4 (#7094)
Location: Illinois
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Keith, you are way, way behind the times on this....there are about 10 other threads out there with everyone's opinions in them. Not trying to be a dick, just giving you a heads up.
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Post #2 6/30/07 5:43:55PM
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fedorwins1
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Season: 47-23 (#333)
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Dude, where have you been?
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Post #3 6/30/07 5:50:34PM
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ProfessorChaos
MMA Regular
Career record: 87-42
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: California
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Weed is illegal
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Post #4 6/30/07 6:13:05PM
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johny_rotten
Standup Guy
Career record: 98-57
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Posted by ProfessorChaos
Weed is illegal
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So are steroids, and they actually enhance performance, but descions for fighters with those in their system weren't overruled. See Tim vs McGee, Randy vs Barnett, Rocye vs Sak and so on.
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Post #5 6/30/07 6:31:50PM
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Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 145-84
Season: 19-14 (#5342)
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
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I think depending on the person, weed can be performance enhancing... but so can vitamins and other legal supplements
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Post #6 6/30/07 6:34:41PM
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fedorwins1
MMA Sensei
Career record: 235-112
Season: 47-23 (#333)
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Posted by Collinreuter
I think depending on the person, weed can be performance enhancing... but so can vitamins and other legal supplements
What? The only thing it can do is lessen the pain and Diaz wasn't high during the fight.
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Post #7 6/30/07 6:39:17PM
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He's Back...
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Man, have you been away?
Have you heard? Keith Hackney isnt fighting any more! Just in case that one got by you!  
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Post #8 6/30/07 6:40:14PM
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Marijuana is not performance enhancing, if anything it would make you drag ass. Also, despite what people keep saying, marijuana also HEIGHTENS SENSITIVITY to touch... That makes it pretty tough to claim that it also numbs you. I dont even smoke, so theres no bias. Bottom line, its illegal, and thats something the fighters need to take into consideration... Repremanded, fined? Sure. No contest? Not unless you reverse the above mentioned cases and then some... BS ruling, but old news, regardless.
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Post #9 6/30/07 6:43:49PM
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Mastodon2
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Career record: 183-108
Season: 32-23 (#4471)
Location: Newcastle England
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Posted by rcg916
Marijuana is not performance enhancing, if anything it would make you drag ass. Also, despite what people keep saying, marijuana also HEIGHTENS SENSITIVITY to touch... That makes it pretty tough to claim that it also numbs you.
Im sorry but that is not the case; THC is a depressant, it gets into the Synapases around your body and in your brain, and blocks neurotransmitters, deadening the senses of touch and pain etc. In this aspect, it works just like Acohol. You may not smoke, but I'm sure you've been drunk - you get that rubber fingered, numb feeling because of the synapses allover your body being blocked. If you've ever seen drunk people fight, you will know that the lack of pain they experience allows them to absorb all kinds of punishment, drunk people fight on because they dont realise how much damage they are taking. THC works in just the same way.
So to summarise, THC (from Marijuana, or whatever source) does not "heighten sensitivity", it kills it, and it can be used as a performance enhancer.
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Post #10 6/30/07 6:52:50PM
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He's Back...
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Posted by Mastodon2
Posted by rcg916
Marijuana is not performance enhancing, if anything it would make you drag ass. Also, despite what people keep saying, marijuana also HEIGHTENS SENSITIVITY to touch... That makes it pretty tough to claim that it also numbs you.
Im sorry but that is not the case; THC is a depressant, it gets into the Synapases around your body and in your brain, and blocks neurotransmitters, deadening the senses of touch and pain etc. In this aspect, it works just like Acohol. You may not smoke, but I'm sure you've been drunk - you get that rubber fingered, numb feeling because of the synapses allover your body being blocked. If you've ever seen drunk people fight, you will know that the lack of pain they experience allows them to absorb all kinds of punishment, drunk people fight on because they dont realise how much damage they are taking. THC works in just the same way.
So to summarise, THC (from Marijuana, or whatever source) does not "heighten sensitivity", it kills it, and it can be used as a performance enhancer.
I didnt just make it up, obviously I read mine somewhere too. Looks like we got conflicting info...
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Post #11 6/30/07 7:17:21PM
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kevietre
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Nate Diaz said in the post fight interview at the TUF 5 Finale he wished they would show Nick more respect since he wasn't able to corner his brother Nate. Matt Serra was asked about it on t.v. and I agree when he said he would rather have his opponent tokin up. Nick made a mistake by blazing but the win shouldn't have been taking away since weed will not enhance your mma ability.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7n9dHEA6n8
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Post #12 6/30/07 7:27:03PM
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Standup Guy
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Can you get a job on drugs? or even smoke it anywhere in public?
no!....
I know it didn't affect the outcome of the fight thats not the point. It's illegal, and we normal folks have to pass drug test why should fighters get to work without drug test? If fighters didn't then we shouldn't get tested when signing up for a new job right?
I don't agree with weed being illegal, but if we can't get away with it nick shouldn't either. It's just plain stupid to say it's not fair. Cause lots of people lose there jobs to drugs. At least he still can come back to work after the suspension.
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Post #13 6/30/07 7:29:26PM
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Posted by shackle
Can you get a job on drugs? or even smoke it anywhere in public?
no!....
I know it didn't affect the outcome of the fight thats not the point. It's illegal, and we normal folks have to pass drug test why should fighters get to work without drug test? If fighters didn't then we shouldn't get tested when signing up for a new job right?
I don't agree with weed being illegal, but if we can't get away with it nick shouldn't either. It's just plain stupid to say it's not fair. Cause lots of people lose there jobs to drugs. At least he still can come back to work after the suspension.
Uh, I already said that its illegal, and fighters should respect that. So, perhaps you werent talking to me?
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Post #14 6/30/07 7:30:56PM
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Standup Guy
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Nope just saying in general not targeting anyone.
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Posted by shackle
Can you get a job on drugs? or even smoke it anywhere in public?
no!....
I know it didn't affect the outcome of the fight thats not the point. It's illegal, and we normal folks have to pass drug test why should fighters get to work without drug test? If fighters didn't then we shouldn't get tested when signing up for a new job right?
I don't agree with weed being illegal, but if we can't get away with it nick shouldn't either. It's just plain stupid to say it's not fair. Cause lots of people lose there jobs to drugs. At least he still can come back to work after the suspension.
Uh, I already said that its illegal, and fighters should respect that. So, perhaps you werent talking to me?
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