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LOS ANGELES - Like any good coach, Gilbert Melendez did his job heading into The Ultimate Fighter 20. The former Strikeforce lightweight champion scouted talent and made mental notes on which fighters he preferred to pick when it came time for him and opposing coach Anthony Pettis to draft their teams.

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Post #1   9/11/14 11:30:26AM   

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Gilbert sounds like a pretty smart guy. He sounded smart in last night's episode too. Especially if you contrast his fighter-choosing style with Pettis.

No doubt there's a significant amount of subjective judgement going into the seedings. I could see why it bothered him (and the fighters). They do sell it as a competition after all.

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I would too.

Pettis has 5 of the top 6 fighters on his team

When Melendez was picking. I was thinking what is he doing.

First choice or first fight

If the fights are assigned. Then who cares who fights first

They should have known more about the girls.

The rankings fights
I could see why they did it.
They don't wanna end up at the end with say 3 unranked girls and one top 5.

Some big match ups are gonna happen.

Penne vs carla could happen

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Torres was my pick to win it all


Just says. These invicta girls better watch out for these unknown girls

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Fight matrix did a comparison with the show seedings and their rankings.

http://www.fightmatrix.com/2014/09/11/tuf-rankings-vs-fightmatrix-rankings/

By their estimation, and I stress estimation, Bec Rawlings was the most overrated seed while last nights winner, Randa Markos, was the most underrated seed.

So maybe, Gilbert has a point. I don;t think it's worth making any stink about in the end though.

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I agreed with some of them, but Aisling Daly has never been good and I almost barfed when they said 5th. Herring and Rawlings are both can crushers and will be eaten alive.

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Posted by prozacnation1978

I would too.

Pettis has 5 of the top 6 fighters on his team

When Melendez was picking. I was thinking what is he doing.

First choice or first fight

If the fights are assigned. Then who cares who fights first

They should have known more about the girls.
U
The rankings fights
I could see why they did it.
They don't wanna end up at the end with say 3 unranked girls and one top 5.

Some big match ups are gonna happen.

Penne vs carla could happen





ive seen you post in here and i know you are a very educated fan but i have to disagree with you on this one. just because they seeded them doesn't mean they got it right. i mean look at the russian girl she's ranked 5th but has had a long lay off fighting about once a year over the past 4 years. and seems like a basket case. she was picked last for a reason. plus gill did alot better evaluation of the girls. Pettis had them doing chlin ups and vertical hops. WTF was that? Gill at least had them grapple and talk to them on a personal level.

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Posted by ry_dawg63


Posted by prozacnation1978

I would too.

Pettis has 5 of the top 6 fighters on his team

When Melendez was picking. I was thinking what is he doing.

First choice or first fight

If the fights are assigned. Then who cares who fights first

They should have known more about the girls.
U
The rankings fights
I could see why they did it.
They don't wanna end up at the end with say 3 unranked girls and one top 5.

Some big match ups are gonna happen.

Penne vs carla could happen





ive seen you post in here and i know you are a very educated fan but i have to disagree with you on this one. just because they seeded them doesn't mean they got it right. i mean look at the russian girl she's ranked 5th but has had a long lay off fighting about once a year over the past 4 years. and seems like a basket case. she was picked last for a reason. plus gill did alot better evaluation of the girls. Pettis had them doing chlin ups and vertical hops. WTF was that? Gill at least had them grapple and talk to them on a personal level.



There are no Russians on the cast, I think you meant Irish.

Daly is the only one I see as being very overrated, with a few others slightly high on the list.

Regardless of how they were ranked though Pettis has a FAR stronger team.

I'm guessing at worst they go 5-3 in the opening round.

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Posted by ry_dawg63


Posted by prozacnation1978

I would too.

Pettis has 5 of the top 6 fighters on his team

When Melendez was picking. I was thinking what is he doing.

First choice or first fight

If the fights are assigned. Then who cares who fights first

They should have known more about the girls.
U
The rankings fights
I could see why they did it.
They don't wanna end up at the end with say 3 unranked girls and one top 5.

Some big match ups are gonna happen.

Penne vs carla could happen





ive seen you post in here and i know you are a very educated fan but i have to disagree with you on this one. just because they seeded them doesn't mean they got it right. i mean look at the russian girl she's ranked 5th but has had a long lay off fighting about once a year over the past 4 years. and seems like a basket case. she was picked last for a reason. plus gill did alot better evaluation of the girls. Pettis had them doing chlin ups and vertical hops. WTF was that? Gill at least had them grapple and talk to them on a personal level.



Pretty weird how Pettis thought 'oh chinups shows theirskill set' lol but i liked Gils approach, seemed more grounded and The girls responded well. How about Pettis? Asking each girl if they have that 'Ride or did' mentality for Dukes camp. Cold too how they shunned Rose.

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Pettis team is a lot stronger.

I see your point.
But on paper Pettis has 5 of the top 6 ranked
Even if dailey shouldn't be in the top 5

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you're right I was feeling the same way as well.I think Carla is going to win the whole thing.but that's the way the coin flip went pettis got the first pick.I probably would have picked Torres as my first pick after Carla was picked too. Sucks but I'm still looking forward to this season!

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