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About one-third of professional mixed martial arts matches end in knockout or technical knockout, indicating a higher incidence of brain trauma than boxing or other martial arts, according to a new study in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.

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Post #1   3/28/14 6:00:45PM   

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It's flawed to compare boxing to MMA in the way this study did.

The reason there are more TKO's in MMA than in boxing is because in boxing all you have to do is get back on your feet and they'll let you continue taking more damage.

I wouldn't be shocked if the University of Toronto got its funding for this study from the culinary union (UNITE HERE). The same union that has been at war with the Fertitta's for years.

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Post #2   3/28/14 6:15:56PM   

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There's also the fact that boxers by their nature tend to absorb more strikes to the head than mixed martial artists, both in training and in official bouts. A good modern mixed martial artist will spend a percentage of their time with wrestling and grappling, as opposed to a boxer whose combat focus is typically limited to, well, boxing.

There are certainly exceptions, and I'd love to see more exact numbers on this. But either this study - or the way it's presented - is both inaccurate and incomplete.

Post #3   3/28/14 6:37:17PM   

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Doesn't take into account that MMA fights almost always stop when there is a knockdown, because the guy follows you down to finish up.

In boxing, you can incur multiple concussions in a single bout, because they let you get back up.

Taking repeated blows after receiving one concussion is much worse for you, especially if you get subsequent concussions after that (knocked out again.)

Post #4   3/28/14 6:37:58PM   

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I need go lean how to get funded for doing bullshit studies like this

Post #5   3/28/14 7:25:00PM   

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This is the boxing study they're using to compare the concussion rates in boxing. "Concussion was appropriately assessed through a clinical examination and a battery of simple neuropsychological tests incorporating measures of orientation and memory." The MMA study only looked at the TKO/KO rates. Also they only looked at boxing matches that took place in Victoria, Australia over a 16 year period. I don't know what any of that means, but I know you should use the same methods to measure things if you're going to make comparisons and I wouldn't know how well of an indicator the clinical exam is either because you're probably going to pass an orientation and memory test after a concussion at least some of the time.

As an aside, the MMA study was funded by the Canadian Institutes of Health Research Strategic Teams in Applied Injury Research, and again I don't know what that means...

Post #6   3/28/14 8:37:39PM   

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Anderson is going to have serious brain damage from his last tko loss to Weidman.

They studied 844 fight videos to come up with stats they could've got from Sherdog in an hour and other stats that are useless. We all know tko's involve multiple shots to the head before the ref stops it.

It's a good thing Lawrence Epstein responded instead of Dana. He sounded like a true professional.

The study proposed more training for refs though, so it's not all bad and if the guy can get funding for watching mma and hockey games all day then good for him, lucky bastard. I`m sure he enjoys it. He`s the assistant coach for the U of Toronto mens hockey team and he did another study where he watched hundreds of hockey games and came up with more stats that are fairly useless. I repeat lucky bastard.

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There are more KOs and TKOs in MMA mainly because of the difference in glove sizes. MMA gloves are much thinner and smaller. Boxers can absorb more big blows because of the bigger gloves.

Post #8   3/29/14 1:51:26AM   

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pretty sure they meant this

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I would like to know the difference between Headkick KO's and Baseball bat headshot.

To see if Rogen is right, or over dramatic.


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Look getting punched in the head is never the best thing for the brain. If you are a pro fighter and think that because your not a boxer things will never go wrong.....u got another thing coming.

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Posted by frizzzlecake

I would like to know the difference between Headkick KO's and Baseball bat headshot.

To see if Rogen is right, or over dramatic.


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My sister was hit in the head with a bat. She was left with a broken skull once cleaned out her brain was exposed and she has a small dent 15 years later. Granted she was a child at the time but I have never seen a hole in anyone's head like that

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The study is severely flawed. Id like to see a study looking at how many head shots (punches/elbows/kicks) mma fighter take compared to a boxer over the course of their careers. I think itd beed alot more accurate and give a better idea on how much damage guys are actually receiving.

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This study is absolute garbage.

Post #14   3/29/14 11:05:05AM   

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as far as I'm concerned, any combat sport, kickboxing, boxing, MMA will give the competitors some kind of brain trauma. if you get hit in the head hard enough to get rocked or KO'd, then there is brain trauma. is there one thats worse than the other? my guess is boxing because of all the head hunting and standing 8 count.

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