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i just looked at the label and it says it has methylxandine (caffine) the question is how much?



Wow I was wrong!!! Stupid sister.

On a side note I am glad you brought this to my attention. That type of caffine is also a diuretic. That explained a lot for me, I will spare the details.



Haha, I heard the same thing though, I thought caffeine was the opposite of NO. BTW, is it really illegal for some of these companies to keep stuff off the label? Whenever I read the ingredients it says its not authorized by the FDA, so is there any laws still governing them to put anything and everything that is in the supplement on the label?



If they keep something off the label, and someone is allergic or has a bad reaction to what ever wasn't listed the company would be very liable in a court of law.

What I am curious of is all the athletes that are claiming they didn't know they were taking something that made them fail the post fight drug test. Both Rocye and Vitor said everything they took was sold to them at GNC. In lue of that there has been no retort if this is possible or not. I would love to know what products at GNC if any could make you fail the drug tests they are taking.



hmmm good point.

Post #16   7/1/07 4:15:31PM   

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what about Xyience NOX-CG3?

its got creatine, arginine, and glutamine

Post #17   7/2/07 1:47:23AM   

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NOExplode is pretty popular in the bodybuilding circles as well, largely due to the creatine since the NO pump has really been discredited as having little value other than the actual pump.

There are other products that do basically the same thing, the cheapest being your classic Creatine Monohydrate, preferably the micronized version which dissolves easier. Green Magnitude from i think Controlled Labs tastes great and has a few different types of creatines in it. Xyience NOXCG3 is a decent product, the CG3 part comes from it having 3 types of glutamines and 3 types of creatines, but there are equal or better products for a far cheaper price. Xyience has a lot of marketing to pay for and that makes a lot of their stuff overpriced.

Caffiene does work antagonistically to creatines, but I don't know how much of one it takes to zero out the other. From what I've read you can drink caffienated stuff every few days and it shouldn't impact the proven benefits that creatine brings to your workouts. Most of the pre-workout stuff like White Flood and other ones have caffeine in them also, but it's not unknown for a company to put 2 ingredients that work against each other.

The supp market preys on people who don't read all the labels, or just look for a single ingredient without considering how all the ingredients interact.
Supplements are such a slippery topic, a while back everyone was jizzing about guggulsterones and CEE, then once they actually get tested by science it turns out one is VERY bad for you, and one works worse than what it was intended to replace. People get on forums and say that within a day of taking something they've increased their benchpress by 20lb and nobody waits for the science. Nobody sticks around once their miracle supp is debunked, by that time they've moved on to the next miracle.

The bottom line is that the best bona fide testing on any sports supplement has been done on creatine monohydrate, so if you want something guaranteed effective, that is your best bet.

Check the labels, know what each ingredient does and make sure your choice of supplement has everything you want and not a whole lot more.

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I took some one time before I worked out, and my veins were the size of a water hose haha. It does help you lift. I could lift a little more than I normally ever could. Basically all it does is widen your veins to help blood flow easily. I'm sure theres more to it, but thats what it does basically :)

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ok i take N.O. Eplode also but i have yet to find a flavor thats good i tried grape and it was horrible then i tried lemonade and it was worse then the grape so any suggestions on the flavor?

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Posted by DevonFoxy

ok i take N.O. Eplode also but i have yet to find a flavor thats good i tried grape and it was horrible then i tried lemonade and it was worse then the grape so any suggestions on the flavor?



i have the blue raspberry and i dont think it is too bad, i mean the stuff mixes great compared to sumperpump250 which is what i too before and tastes a whole lot better

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good call ill try that cuz i get it for free at GNC. DON'T TRY THE LEMONADE. lol.But im seriously the stuff is rank.

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what, free.. how?

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oh lol your prolly not interested but i work at a pretzel place in our mall here in hicksville FL and i give the people there free pretzels for free N.O Explode. pretty good deal IMO.lol

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I use BodyFortress Creatine,helped me.

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Thank you very much for suggesting blueraz. its not great but better then any other flavor ive tried. so agian thank you

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Posted by DevonFoxy

Thank you very much for suggesting blueraz. its not great but better then any other flavor ive tried. so agian thank you



you bet, i see your a kos fan... hopefully he beats the sh*t out of gsp and gains a little respect

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I think he has a great chance to win i just hope everyone else doesn't so the money will be good when he does

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