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I like this look better. Has a nice flow to it, and having nav at the top works better. Also enjoy the new features like "My Game History," where I can watch my run at the top turn into utter shit in the span of 10 events. Like the newest comments feature on the forums too.

Really enjoying the badges people get under their names too... it's a really cool way to hilight something someone has done. I really hope they stack, so people can have like a bunch of them going down their name. Maybe max it at 5. Or if someone has multiple badges they could choose which to use. The posibilities are endless. Looking forward to the"Hall of Fame."

EDIT: Forgot to mention how much cooler the wagering system is now, I can now bet on fights that would have been impossible to get anyone to bite on in the other setup. Also it keeps people from abusing the system. Nice job changing. I was wondering if our picks make the odds, because that'd be really cool.

Great job man, keep up the good work.

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Post #1   6/18/07 12:04:52PM   

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Posted by Ydoc

I like this look better. Has a nice flow to it, and having nav at the top works better. Also enjoy the new features like "My Game History," where I can watch my run at the top turn into utter shit in the span of 10 events. Like the newest comments feature on the forums too.

Really enjoying the badges people get under their names too... it's a really cool way to hilight something someone has done. I really hope they stack, so people can have like a bunch of them going down their name. Maybe max it at 5. Or if someone has multiple badges they could choose which to use. The posibilities are endless. Looking forward to the"Hall of Fame."

EDIT: Forgot to mention how much cooler the wagering system is now, I can now bet on fights that would have been impossible to get anyone to bite on in the other setup. Also it keeps people from abusing the system. Nice job changing. I was wondering if our picks make the odds, because that'd be really cool.

Great job man, keep up the good work.



Thanks for the kind words man, they are appreciated

Re the badges: In the event you've earned more than 1 badge for something you can select which one appears by your name on the forums via a new option which you will see at the bottom of the "My Account" page. ALL badges earned will appear in your profile, even if you somehow manage to earn 100 of them, they will all be visible. Since we've issued badges for the prior season's activities we already have several users with 2 badges (B_Goetz, babalu2720, greshamfighter, pickledpunk, Porch28, xthe_scottx, yamaneko, zephead)

Personally I like the new wager system much better. And yes, it is partially based on user picks on the site among some other data that we factor in. There were just too many people making multiple accounts to wager against themselves with, and it wasn't a true level playing field as a result. Also, waiting for people to get back to you on a wager sucked and it wasn't easy to find folks to make bets with on the lesser known fighters. People hate change though, and I'm sure there are plenty who would have rather had it the old way, but for us to give away a per-event and season prizes to the top wagerers we had to do something to make sure that everyone is on equal footing. +/- odds may be confusing to some people, but in reality this wager system is very very simple compared to large array of different types of betting you can participate in on a true sportsbook site.

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Post #2   6/18/07 12:34:04PM   

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new wagering sucks now there is no reason or no way to make wagers with friends. not going to make it as fun when watching fights to rub it in to your friends when you take there cash. this is hurting.
o yeah and i forgot and we all start out with 1000 now like wy didn;t we keep out cash we had befor so huritng. way to mess up a good thing guys.

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Posted by nellyhiphophead

not going to make it as fun when watching fights to rub it in to your friends when you take there cash.




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Post #5   6/18/07 1:05:01PM   

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well made my wagers i'll see you guys saterday night to see how i did and make my wagers for ufc 73. wow i get to spend 5 mins on here now and get everything done. now i don't have to spend anytime on the websight. great way to keep ppl comign back to the sight and stayign on it and posting on the forums.

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It might be too late for this suggestion but....

How about the concept of a public bankroll and a private bankroll?

1) We could use the private bankroll to bet with friends (or with other users) but it wouldn't count towards any public stats.

2) The private bankroll could be tied to the Fantasy Picks section so that it gets slightly replenished over time.

3) The public bankroll would be what is displayed under our avatar and is used for the stats and used for the Fantasy Wagers section

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they don't even need to do that they should of jst left it how it was and that the money was for just fun and making your picks is what counted for prizes. i would rather see cash go to the top 3 for picks then the top earner and then the top points for a event.

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Posted by Mayo

It might be too late for this suggestion but....

How about the concept of a public bankroll and a private bankroll?

1) We could use the private bankroll to bet with friends (or with other users) but it wouldn't count towards any public stats.

2) The private bankroll could be tied to the Fantasy Picks section so that it gets slightly replenished over time.

3) The public bankroll would be what is displayed under our avatar and is used for the stats and used for the Fantasy Wagers section




now the problem is...are the admins going to take this into consideration

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they made this game with fantasy money wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too competitive

Post #10   6/18/07 1:26:23PM   

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Posted by nellyhiphophead

new wagering sucks now there is no reason or no way to make wagers with friends. not going to make it as fun when watching fights to rub it in to your friends when you take there cash. this is hurting.
o yeah and i forgot and we all start out with 1000 now like wy didn;t we keep out cash we had befor so huritng. way to mess up a good thing guys.



Thanks for taking the time to give us some feedback

In order to give out prizes for the season and per-event, the bankrolls had to all be reset. Someone starting with $10k has a much larger per-event and overall season potential than someone with $1k.

All the mods having to spend time after each event investigating and policing wagers was quite tedious, and people will still always slip through the cracks. This situation was only becoming more and more unmanageable as the number of users on the site continues to grow. It's truelly amazing how many people took the time and effort to game a system that had no prize besides a little green number on your profile.

There is a reason that it said "BETA" at the top of the site by our logo, the first season was a beta season used to get the game figured out and to see what is the best, fairest course of action for everyone.

Of course everyone has an opinion and personal preference for how they would like to see the site operate. Sadly, it is not possible to please everyone, and it is human nature to dislike changes in your environment. If these changes have disrupted your experience here, we apologize, but please be aware that all changes that have been made from the game's first crude incarnation were done for the purpose of trying to make the games as fun, fair, and interesting as possible for everyone that plays our free fantasy game. Shooting ourselves in the foot would make no sense.

It isn't out of the realm of possibilities to make a small , separate personal bankroll again at some point in the future (perhaps just limiting it to inter-camp wagers or something like that because there are no plans to have our staff spending time policing thousands and thousands of users wagers for each event), but for now we're just trying to get folks familiar with the new look of the site and preparing themselves for season 2.

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Posted by Ydoc

I like this look better. Has a nice flow to it, and having nav at the top works better. Also enjoy the new features like "My Game History," where I can watch my run at the top turn into utter shit in the span of 10 events. Like the newest comments feature on the forums too.

Really enjoying the badges people get under their names too... it's a really cool way to hilight something someone has done. I really hope they stack, so people can have like a bunch of them going down their name. Maybe max it at 5. Or if someone has multiple badges they could choose which to use. The posibilities are endless. Looking forward to the"Hall of Fame."

EDIT: Forgot to mention how much cooler the wagering system is now, I can now bet on fights that would have been impossible to get anyone to bite on in the other setup. Also it keeps people from abusing the system. Nice job changing. I was wondering if our picks make the odds, because that'd be really cool.

Great job man, keep up the good work.



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Posted by nellyhiphophead

they don't even need to do that they should of jst left it how it was and that the money was for just fun and making your picks is what counted for prizes. i would rather see cash go to the top 3 for picks then the top earner and then the top points for a event.



We also needed a fair way to break ties for potential per-event and season prizes. By having the wagering system be un-cheatable and be a game in which everyone has equal opportunity, we now have a fair way to settle ties in the points game. Out of the first 10 events in season 1, there were 3 events with a tie in the points scored for first place. How could we break a tie using a wagering system that favors clever cheaters and/or people who have simply played the game longer? As the number of users on the site continues to grow, these ties for event (and even possibly full seasons) are only going to increase.

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Post #13   6/18/07 1:32:34PM   

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ok if ppl were tied in a event then you woudl take the first and second place cash put it together then spit it in half and give each person half. liek they do with the lotto if you win. and you guys made the change that you had to give odds on fights so how can ppl cheat then and that the fantasy cash can't win you real money then who would care if ppl cheated even if you can't.

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You guys are bein a bit harsh, they put a lot of work into this and the fact that its free to play and we still can make money is great. i dont need to rub it in my friends face. you can still rub it in if you made the right pick and he didnt. i mean out of every player on this site i got screwed the most and im not complainig. I would have started off with about 11k and could have cruised the first couple of events and maybe the whole season makin tons of cash(both real and fake) the house betting makes it more fair. You guys can start your own site if its that bad. its one thing do disagree, but your makin this into a big issue.

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