Gracie Maintains Innocence Regarding CSAC Results. |
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MisFiT
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Of the mixed martial artists that fought June 2 at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, MMA pioneer Royce Gracie (Pictures) was likely the last man anyone would have tabbed a steroid user.
However, on Thursday, that veneer was crushed when the California State Athletic Commission revealed the 40-year-old Brazilian tested positive in both "A" and "B" samples for traces of Nandrolone, a commonly used anabolic steroid.
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Post #1 6/15/07 9:03:16PM
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cincyassasin
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I gotta believe him at his word........
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Post #2 6/15/07 10:20:00PM
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Canadian_MM_EH
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Post #3 6/15/07 10:33:39PM
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Lord_Lenny
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god i really hope there is some mistake
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Post #4 6/16/07 12:05:19AM
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MrGreeny
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I really hate this guy but i don't think he has taken these drugs...
God, i hope he did because i can hate him even more....  just kidding...
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Post #5 6/16/07 8:56:26AM
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bdunn
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I hope he didnt do it
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Post #6 6/16/07 9:52:54AM
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CanadianCripplr
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are you people for real? of course he took them...money makes people do things they would never do and im sure he knew its now or never.
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Post #7 6/16/07 5:04:23PM
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akumairon
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awww man that sucks oh well lol iguess that makes sakuraba still the gracie hunter and royce a cheater(I had lots of respect for royce)
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Post #8 6/16/07 6:17:52PM
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keith-hackney1
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If its true, he did use steroids to enhance his performance into beating sak, then all that i have preached comes into light. The gracies know that theres no easy fight anymore, i wouldnt be surprised if royce did use them, he hasnt exactly been invincible like in his ufc days, since his comeback began in 2000.
Its time he retiered !!!!
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Post #9 6/17/07 7:23:35AM
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cincyassasin
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Nandrolone is a weird substance folks. Just to give you an idea of what you're dealing with, here's a little reminder of a previous incident involving Nandrolone.
"Although his debut ended in success – Marquardt earned a decision victory over UFC veteran Ivan Salaverry – post-fight drug testing controversy led to Marquardt's suspension by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Marquardt tested positive for high levels of nandrolone, which led the commission to file for his suspension. Marquardt maintains that he only used over-the-counter supplements in preparation for his fight – a claim which seems to have been affirmed by a follow-up drug test that found Marquardt to be free of illegal substances. Regardless, Marquardt's suspension was lifted in January 2006.[8]"
Source: Nate Marquardt's Wikipedia entry (if that's not concrete enough you can verify it through several online MMA sources).
Now if this were Boldenone, you can say everything you want to say without any remorse. If it were stanozolol you can say what you will but there are sometimes circumstances where its use can be justified (If I remember correctly, it's often used as a theraputic treatment for fighters that undergo surgery, possibly in combination with other drugs for a speedier recovery).
Before we start putting the Gracie legacy into question
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Post #10 6/19/07 11:14:41AM
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fatdevil1982
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Nandrolone use is indirectly detectable in urine tests by testing for the presence of 19-norandrosterone, a metabolite of this molecule. The International Olympic Committee has set a limit of 2 ng per ml of urine as the upper limit, beyond which an athlete is suspected of doping.
Urine analysis as a method of detecting nandrolone abuse has recently become somewhat controversial, following studies by the University of Aberdeen showing that the metabolite product can also show up in urine in quantities above the upper limit from a combination of high-protein diets utilising the legal nutritional supplement creatine and hard cardiovascular exercise. The reason for this unexpected result has not been determined. Another possible (though unlikely) reason for a false positive result is the consumption of beef from cattle treated with steroids including nandrolone (used in overturning the verdict against the bobsleigh racer, Lenny Paul). Heavy consumption of the essential amino acid lysine (as indicated in the treatment of cold sores) has also shown false positives in some and was cited by American Shotputter C.J. Hunter as the reason for his positive test. A final possible cause of incorrect urine test results is the presence of metabolites from other anabolic steroids. As a result of the numerous overturned verdicts, the testing procedure was reviewed by UK Sport [1] in 2000.
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Post #11 6/19/07 12:19:21PM
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MMA-guy
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Of course he took steroids. The drugs didn't just magically come up on his drug-test. Anyone who believes Royce is a fool. He's old and in a lot of pain. He's needs them
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Post #12 6/19/07 8:18:54PM
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Focker101
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Come on of course he took the drugs
now I only question for how long, was he using back in the early days
I used to be a Gracie fan.. but only a coward cheats and I have lost all respect for him...
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Post #13 6/22/07 1:47:33PM
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cincyassasin
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Lets think of all the pros and cons for Royce taking them and it's plain to see it must be a misunderstanding. The only pro is he beats Saku......the cons are endless, he gets fined, stripped of the win, dirties his families legacy, loses respect from fighters and fans......I just don't see it being worth the risk in anyway.
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Post #14 6/23/07 8:56:38AM
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