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Posted by tepid55

Chuck Liddell never seemed quite the same after Quinton Jackson KO'ed him in the UFC, and Takanori Gomi was never the same after Nick Diaz submitted him with that gogoplata at PRIDE 33.



Liddell I think got increasingly better at the end of his career, despite his losses. I just think Liddell was a brawler of a bygone era, and experienced a wave of new up and comers that were simply better fighters than him, even in his prime.

I mean look what Rampage did to him in PRIDE. Rampage was just a much more diverse, well put together fighter (crazy to think that seeing how even more diverse fighters are these days, making Rampage look one dimensional).

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Post #17   11/26/13 12:02:21PM   

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Posted by infestructure

Also Struve had to quit fighting after Hunto turned his chin



yeah.....I'm pretty sure that is not the reason

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for me the #1 answer is Miguel Torres

Prior to the Bowles fight, he was 37-1 and on a 17 fight win streak. He was heavily debated as being a top 5 p4p fighter. Since the loss to Bowles, he is 3-5 and losing to subpar talent in WSOF. Now the Mighty Mouse fight was a little controversial so who knows how that could have changed things, but he has really fallen off the rails.

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Post #19   11/26/13 1:12:24PM   

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Posted by Bubbles

for me the #1 answer is Miguel Torres

Prior to the Bowles fight, he was 37-1 and on a 17 fight win streak. He was heavily debated as being a top 5 p4p fighter. Since the loss to Bowles, he is 3-5 and losing to subpar talent in WSOF. Now the Mighty Mouse fight was a little controversial so who knows how that could have changed things, but he has really fallen off the rails.



Good add, as much as I like Torres, I've gotta be fair, Torres had one of the most padded combat sports records, perhaps ever. He had a lot of talent, but before fighting in the WEC, he was fighting bad fighters, and a lot of them. of the 33 fighters he faced before the WEC, 8 of them had their first and last MMA fights in a loss to Torres, the average number of pro fights of his opponents was less then 7, over half of the 30 different fighters didn't have winning records before fighting Torres or after.

Torres opponents records when their fight together was over:
0-1
1-2
0-1
4-1-1
2-1
3-1
0-1
1-1
0-1
2-5
0-1
3-1
5-2
3-2
0-1
4-6
0-1
11-4-1 - Miguel's first and only loss in his first 38 fights.
4-2-1
3-2
12-5-1
3-5
16-16-1
12-8
10-5-1
8-3
3-7
4-6
4-4
1-1 This epitomizes Torres early career to me. 32-1 fighting against a guy 1-1.
Total: 125-103-6
Average: 3.8-3.1-.2
Conclusion: Padded record.

It wasn't that Torres was bad, it was that he was no longer fighting guys obviously not on his level. He was on an even playing field in WEC and UFC and I thought he beat MM. But the WSOF sub par talent? Come on, Moreas shouldn't be called sub anything by anyone, it was no surprise he beat Torres.

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Yeah, not to mention the way he blames things like his shorts for his losses

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You could easily say
Mike Brown as well.

Went from beating Faber twice
Lost to Aldo. Hasn't been the same.

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Posted by GDPofMPG

It wasn't that Torres was bad, it was that he was no longer fighting guys obviously not on his level. He was on an even playing field in WEC and UFC and I thought he beat MM. But the WSOF sub par talent? Come on, Moreas shouldn't be called sub anything by anyone, it was no surprise he beat Torres.


I was more referring to the Alonso loss, but yeah I think the Moraes loss was a bit surprising. Also, you know that anyone not in the UFC is subpar right?

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I've just thought of some:
Even though this isn't really changing his career forever because after he moved down to WW he went on an impressive tear, Demian Maia was never the same at Middleweight once Nate Marquardt knocked his block off. 5 straight impressive subs to start his UFC career and then going 4-3 all decisions and pretty lackluster fights at that maybe apart from the Munoz loss. But none were very memorable.

Also if we're going the other way I definitely think Junior Dos Santos one punch KO of Werdum definitely changed his career forever. He was a basically unknown guy, hug underdog going up against Werdum, who was right near the front of the line at HW at the time and if JDS had put on a bad performance they might never have had him back based on huge opportunity he was gifted. Instead he started his highly successful UFC career

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Posted by infestructure

Also Struve had to quit fighting after Hunto turned his chin



yeah.....I'm pretty sure that is not the reason



He says its a heart problem. I say its a chin problem

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After Vitor got that front kick from Silva he became an even bigger beast

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Posted by DrivenDavies15

I've just thought of some:
Even though this isn't really changing his career forever because after he moved down to WW he went on an impressive tear, Demian Maia was never the same at Middleweight once Nate Marquardt knocked his block off. 5 straight impressive subs to start his UFC career and then going 4-3 all decisions and pretty lackluster fights at that maybe apart from the Munoz loss. But none were very memorable.

Also if we're going the other way I definitely think Junior Dos Santos one punch KO of Werdum definitely changed his career forever. He was a basically unknown guy, hug underdog going up against Werdum, who was right near the front of the line at HW at the time and if JDS had put on a bad performance they might never have had him back based on huge opportunity he was gifted. Instead he started his highly successful UFC career



I don't think that was due to his loss to Marquardt, I think Demian wanted to take chances by demonstrating his boxing acumen. Clearly this was a mistake, one that he has recently rectified on his latest streak.

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Posted by Boo_Radley21

After Vitor got that TRT he became an even bigger beast



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Also Struve had to quit fighting after Hunto turned his chin



yeah.....I'm pretty sure that is not the reason



He says its a heart problem. I say its a chin problem






And clearly you have more insight into his health than himself or his doctor(s).

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Posted by infestructure


Posted by Bubbles


Posted by infestructure

Also Struve had to quit fighting after Hunto turned his chin



yeah.....I'm pretty sure that is not the reason



He says its a heart problem. I say its a chin problem






And clearly you have more insight into his health than himself or his doctor(s).


or the fact that his career didn't end after fighting Nelson or Browne or Buentello or Barry or JDS

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