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Melendez/Gustafsson/Hendricks....Which Fighter Was Most Deserving Of A Win?

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Which Fighter Most Deserved The Win?
Melendez vs Benson Henderson 10 19%
Gustafsson vs Jon Jones 15 28%
Hendricks vs GSP 28 53%
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I guess you can only eke your way through so many controversial decisions before you end up on the wrong side of one.

I chose Gus, but don't think any of them did enough to dethrone a champion by the UFC's apparent standards. It makes me wonder about Henderson/Edgar if the credo is that you "have to BEAT the champ to BE the champ".

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The only decision I disagreed with was Bendo/Melendez, so that's what I went with.

Post #17   11/17/13 6:06:01PM   

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I think, while the Jones/Gus fight was extremely close, I think Jones clearly won 3 rounds to 2. I think the same with GSP/Hendricks as well, with GSP winning 3-2. I havent actually watched the Melendez/Bendo fight but I picked it because I think the other 2 clearly won their fights.

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Machida was most deserving of a win more than any of these when he got robbed vs Davis IMO

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can the guys who selected Gustafsson please explain how you think he deserved a decision more then Hendricks?

after i present a few facts

both fighters were busted up after the Gus vs Jones fight
i would say Jones came closer to a finish (in the 4th) then gus did ant anytime during fight


were as Hendricks did not have single mark on his face
looked like he just got out of bed
was never close to being finished

gsp needed stitches and his entire face was busted up
and lost memory of part of the fight -(come on that's huge)
and almost finished in the 4th

12/13 media and fight metric scored it for Jones over gus

14/14 media and fight metric scored it for Hendricks over gsp

now after absorbing all these facts i understand you may feel a little silly at realization that your like or dislike to a certain fighter has gotten the better of you ability to rationally judge an mma bout

remember i like all these fighters equally and i just want whats fair






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Posted by warglory

I have trouble responding to this, because it's kind of a loaded question, no offense. All three fights were extremely close, none of which were screw jobs in my opinion.



Not really sure how it's a loaded question.

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Posted by mentalcase

can the guys who selected Gustafsson please explain how you think he deserved a decision more then Hendricks?

after i present a few facts

both fighters were busted up after the Gus vs Jones fight
i would say Jones came closer to a finish (in the 4th) then gus did ant anytime during fight


were as Hendricks did not have single mark on his face
looked like he just got out of bed
was never close to being finished

gsp needed stitches and his entire face was busted up
and lost memory of part of the fight -(come on that's huge)
and almost finished in the 4th

12/13 media and fight metric scored it for Jones over gus

14/14 media and fight metric scored it for Hendricks over gsp

now after absorbing all these facts i understand you may feel a little silly at realization that your like or dislike to a certain fighter has gotten the better of you ability to rationally judge an mma bout

remember i like all these fighters equally and i just want whats fair




While I agree that Hendricks deserved the decision, it is frustrating as hell to keep having people bring up what the fighters looked like after the fight. The amount of damage visible on a fighters face is completely irrelevant as far as scoring the fight. As does any fighters claim of losing memory of parts or all of the fight.

This is what GSP looked after winning all 5 rounds vs Condit.



Here he is after winning all 5 rounds vs Diaz.



And here is what he looked like after fighting Hendricks.


He's a little bit more banged up I guess, but he pretty much looks the same way after all his most recent fights no matter how they go.

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firstly his face post Hendricks fight is like twice as bad as the two previous bouts
and there's an even bigger contrast when compared to the damage his opponents received as both of them suffered damage also

now while i agree visible damage is not under judging criteria
effective striking is and the damage he received from Hendricks is simply proof that Hendricks effective striking was far superior to any of gsp strikes, and so should count for more

and the loss of memory (tho cant be judged) is also result of effective striking

to summarize effective striking = damage

so to claim damage suffered and being near unconscious is completely irrelevant is short sighted and dose not hold up

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Johny Hendricks is the only one I thought won & the scorecards from MMADecisions agree with 16-0 of all major MMA websites that had play by play unanimously scoring it for Hendricks. Going back looking at the other 2 fights the media also agreed with 13-1 scoring for Jones over Gus and 7-6 scoring for Bendo over Gil.

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The poll results so far have it pretty much spot on IMO.

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Posted by mentalcase

firstly his face post Hendricks fight is like twice as bad as the two previous bouts
and there's an even bigger contrast when compared to the damage his opponents received as both of them suffered damage also

now while i agree visible damage is not under judging criteria
effective striking is and the damage he received from Hendricks is simply proof that Hendricks effective striking was far superior to any of gsp strikes, and so should count for more

and the loss of memory (tho cant be judged) is also result of effective striking

to summarize effective striking = damage

so to claim damage suffered and being near unconscious is completely irrelevant is short sighted and dose not hold up


you do realize you are arguing PRIDE rules and not the unified rules right?

Also effective striking =/= damage solely.

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Posted by pmoney

Gustafsson and Hendricks both deserved wins. They both beat the champs to a pulp and won every area of the game in their respective fights.

The Melendez fight was closer, but he still deserved it too.



This pretty much sums up how I feel about it.

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Posted by bjj1605


Posted by pmoney

Gustafsson and Hendricks both deserved wins. They both beat the champs to a pulp and won every area of the game in their respective fights.

The Melendez fight was closer, but he still deserved it too.



This pretty much sums up how I feel about it.




Yep

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