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The head honcho of the UFC offers his opinion on why the promotion decided to release perennial top-10 middleweight Yushin Okami.

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Post #1   9/28/13 11:21:50AM   

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Can't say I agree with his way of thinking. It's great to see up-and-comers take their shot at making a name for themselves, but do we really need a bunch of guys who go 1-3, 2-2, etc in the UFC? I'd prefer a fighter like Okami.

Post #2   9/28/13 11:30:13AM   

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I look at it as Dana releasing a trojan horse. Just like Fitch, Okami may not be the most exciting fighter (to the general public), but is tough as nails. Also, he's a known name, but not quite a star. It's the perfect mix. If Bellator picks him up, he very possibly dominates his weight class...and as a result, a guy who couldn't cut it in the UFC is at the top of the Bellator pyramid...and possibly does it with boring fights. On the other hand, if Bellator passes on these types of guys, then they are not really looking for the best talent available. So, if they pass, they are passing up top talent, which doesn't bode well when claiming to have the toughest tournament in sports. And if they do pick them up, then they're the next WSOF. Now, there's nothing wrong with being WSOF, but it's not what Bellator wants to be and it surely isn't a product that could go head to head with the UFC. Okami's just a pawn here, I'm afraid.

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Reads to me like we can't have okami derailing any prospects with his not so fan friendly style

Post #4   9/28/13 1:29:09PM   

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I think Okami will win a bunch of fights and the UFC will give him another go. Almost like a wake up call dirty move by the UFC if you ask me but its a business they dont give a shit.

Post #5   9/28/13 1:33:26PM   

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What hump didnt he get over? He beat Belcher twice, yet Belcher is still there.

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Basically he's saying Francis Carmont is the new Okami. Old Okami can go pound sand in Bellator.

Post #7   9/28/13 2:05:39PM   

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So not being able to win significant fights is a reason for release? Well, I might want to find a way to establish contact with Gustafsson and Benavidez and Bigfoot, and everyone who has fought GSP in the last several years, because they all have to go. Why can't White just come out and say it's because there are people that find Okami boring and then follow up by saying Machida is likely next on the chopping block? It would be a lot easier than making excuses that we all see right through.

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Bullshit answer

Post #9   9/28/13 3:41:10PM   

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So let me get this straight. The reason Dana's given for cutting Yushin Okami is because he's become a gatekeeper?
So for the sake of keeping your job, you're better off losing to a gatekeeper than becoming one?...



If Dana was honest and open about it being due to his none entertaining fighting style, that would have been acceptable.

He can't say it's because Okami can't finish fights because he's finished over 33% of his wins.

His reasoning was because he's become a gatekeeper and the rosters full. To me, in that situation, he is the perfect type of guy to have. If you can't beat him your cut.

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Posted by postman

Reads to me like we can't have okami derailing any prospects with his not so fan friendly style



I was thinking the same thing. He is a liability because he derails the new guys. Just adds to the laundry list of reasons the ufc doesn't actually care about integrity other than the integrity of their bank accounts.

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So Okami was a gatekeeper? But gets released? So.........why is Joey Beltran still in the Ufc?

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^ He beat one nobody in a smaller org and got hired back. Weird.

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That statement is not a justification for letting a top 10 guy go.

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Its not like the UFC does this that much.

In reality, the vast majority of fighters that the UFC has released have been either disappointments or under-performed for a significant period. Fitch and Okami are surprises, but they represent a very small minority of UFC fighter cuts. While they are talented, they are not just occasionally boring but NOTORIOUSLY so. If I had to guess I would say that a lot of fans would avoid PPVs and events just because they were on the card. So not only did they not really bring in money for the UFC…they could conceivably be liabilities for the company. These sort of cuts for top talent are very rare, and the UFC hangs on to plenty of fighters that are not especially exciting and are occasionally even boring. However, the worst offenders in this area have now received notice: If all you do is the bare minimum to scrape by for the judges it may not matter what your win/loss ratio is.


Posted by jjeans

He can't say it's because Okami can't finish fights because he's finished over 33% of his wins.



That is a rather deceptive statistic. The problem isn't Okami's entire professional record starting in 2002. Its the fact that he hasn't dispatched a single high quality opponent...arguably in his entire career. Almost every good fighter picks up a large percentage in the minor leagues and against lesser opposition. Okami, on the other hand, simply can't SUB/KO someone who is not comparatively MUCH worse.

Of course that doesn't mean the UFC won't take him back. His chances are pretty good if he wins some fights in other orgs...particularly next time the UFC goes to Japan.

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