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Abel Trujillo Didn’t Get the Win at UFC Fight Night 27, but He’s Going to Be Paid Like He Did

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For all the talk surrounding the outstanding card that was UFC Fight Night 27 in Indianapolis on Wednesday night, some of the loudest dialogue surrounded a preliminary fight between Abel Trujillo of South Florida’s Blackzilian’s camp, and former Strikeforce slugger Roger Bowling.

Bowling and Trujillo kicked off the night’s action in a back-and-forth scrap that highlighted the toughness and grit of both fighters. As the second round came to a close, however, controversy enveloped the Bankers Life Fieldhouse and much debate across social media outlets ensued...

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Post #1   8/29/13 8:39:42AM   

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Bullshit imo

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Post #2   8/29/13 9:12:56AM   

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Chael P. Sonnen just stated that he wished he had that "Ref" for the second Andy Silva fight.

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Not sure why he should be paid as though he won considering the whole blatant illegal knees thing. Rulebreaking shouldn't be rewarded.

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Posted by Bythar

Not sure why he should be paid as though he won considering the whole blatant illegal knees thing. Rulebreaking shouldn't be rewarded.


Dana said the second knee hit his shoulder, not his head. When I saw it live it looked illegal and after reviewing the replay from several angles my results were inconclusive. Either the ref, an arm, or Trujillo is in the way of a good angle, top down would be the only one that would reveal it clearly.

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Post #5   8/29/13 11:58:06AM   

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Posted by airkerma


Posted by Bythar

Not sure why he should be paid as though he won considering the whole blatant illegal knees thing. Rulebreaking shouldn't be rewarded.


Dana said the second knee hit his shoulder, not his head. When I saw it live it looked illegal and after reviewing the replay from several angles my results were inconclusive. Either the ref, an arm, or Trujillo is in the way of a good angle, top down would be the only one that would reveal it clearly.



Dana doesn't know what he's talking about. It definately didn't land on the shoulder.

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You're probably right. I still can't clearly see where the knee landed, but his head jerked back much more from the second knee. You would expect a similar snap compared to the first knee if it was shoulder. Good gif

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Chael P. Sonnen just stated that he wished he had that "Ref" for the second Andy Silva fight.



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Posted by FastKnockout


Posted by airkerma


Posted by Bythar

Not sure why he should be paid as though he won considering the whole blatant illegal knees thing. Rulebreaking shouldn't be rewarded.


Dana said the second knee hit his shoulder, not his head. When I saw it live it looked illegal and after reviewing the replay from several angles my results were inconclusive. Either the ref, an arm, or Trujillo is in the way of a good angle, top down would be the only one that would reveal it clearly.



Dana doesn't know what he's talking about. It definately didn't land on the shoulder.




That's 100% on the face. You can't see the impact, but you can see his head rocket backwards.

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It's amazing how much more damage a knee does when a guy has one hand/knee down. looks more like the thigh to the face to me but it's pretty hard to tell.

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I still don't believe that second knee did nearly as much damage as Bowling acted like it did. It definitely caught him in the face a bit, but it didn't have much impact; more of a glancing blow from what I can tell. Either way, Bowling wasn't unconscious. If you're Bowling in that situation and you're in the UFC still searching for your first win, after most likely winning the first two rounds, you get back to your feet and plead with the referee to let the fight continue.

It seemed to me like as soon as Bowling knew the referee was stepping in he over-exaggerated the damage a bit, kind of like Gamburyan but not as bad.

I don't agree with Trujillo getting win money, but I can't understand why those knees aren't legal anyways. That needs to change.

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I still don't believe that second knee did nearly as much damage as Bowling acted like it did. It definitely caught him in the face a bit, but it didn't have much impact; more of a glancing blow from what I can tell. Either way, Bowling wasn't unconscious. If you're Bowling in that situation and you're in the UFC still searching for your first win, after most likely winning the first two rounds, you get back to your feet and plead with the referee to let the fight continue.

It seemed to me like as soon as Bowling knew the referee was stepping in he over-exaggerated the damage a bit, kind of like Gamburyan but not as bad.

I don't agree with Trujillo getting win money, but I can't understand why those knees aren't legal anyways. That needs to change.



I think it did hurt Bowling, but I also think its because his chin has been compromised so many times.

Knees/kicks on the ground can hurt you more because you don't have the option of falling over as easily. Standing, once the spine runs out of flextion, you get knocked over. On the mat you could be propped up on a knee and get killed, in theory. In practice, a professional athlete can take a hit much worse than you or I and not be seriously injured.

That's neither here nor there, but point is, the strike hit the head, no doubt.

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Posted by Svartorm

Knees/kicks on the ground can hurt you more because you don't have the option of falling over as easily. Standing, once the spine runs out of flextion, you get knocked over. On the mat you could be propped up on a knee and get killed, in theory. In practice, a professional athlete can take a hit much worse than you or I and not be seriously injured.



While that may be true, a lot of grounded knee strikes were thrown not only in Japan in PRIDE and other organizations, but also up in Canada in UCC/TKO, and no one ever got seriously damaged or injured, at least not any worse than any other knee strike or kick would've done.

But yeah, this is pretty off topic. On topic: I don't think the second knee landed enough to warrant a stoppage. I think that referee did a terrible job all night long.

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I have to respectfully disagree with whomever says the second knee wasnt illegal. The first could go either way and i only say that because I myself couldnt actually see the point of contact. With that being said, I do still think that it was illegal. Trujillo wasn't aiming he was just throwing. The second one CLEARLY got Bowling in the face.



Trujillo being paid like he won is complete utter bullshit.
Dana wants him to be popular SO DAMN BAD you can tell.


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Posted by Webbie

While that may be true, a lot of grounded knee strikes were thrown not only in Japan in PRIDE and other organizations, but also up in Canada in UCC/TKO, and no one ever got seriously damaged or injured, at least not any worse than any other knee strike or kick would've done.

But yeah, this is pretty off topic. On topic: I don't think the second knee landed enough to warrant a stoppage. I think that referee did a terrible job all night long.



Depends on what you mean by serious injured, but I'd have to disagree. I'm pro-grounded knees but anti-grounded kicks because it's really the soccer kicks that could potentially kill your ass.

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