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jocksmall
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if bj beats jens at fight night he will be positioned for a shot at shrek. maybe im a bj fan but i dont think i am i just think the guy is damn good. his losses to st. pierre and matt hughes are due to conditioning in my opinion. and that shouldnt be as much a problem at 155? im calling bj tops at 155. agree or disagree?
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Post #1 6/11/07 9:32:45PM
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He's fightin at the TUF Finale, and wtf?
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Post #2 6/11/07 9:41:38PM
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Ydoc
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Season: 44-25 (#542)
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I think he'd one more win, if BJ wins he should face Joe Daddy for a title shot. Lots of exciting matches waiting for Penn at 155.
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Post #3 6/11/07 10:18:07PM
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pv3Hpv3p
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Posted by Ydoc
...if BJ wins he should face Joe Daddy for a title shot. Lots of exciting matches waiting for Penn at 155.
I think that fight would have the making of a good ground war, but with Penn's TD defense and most importantly vastly superior striking game, I don't think the fight would end well for Joe
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Post #4 6/12/07 2:17:31AM
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Signal2112
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Can't say I disagree with you there, BJ is a brilliant fighter.
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Post #5 6/12/07 6:24:41AM
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Damien6663
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Lack of conditioning is no excuse to lose fights...That said you could argue that bj would deserve a shot at sherk because of the name, and past acomplishments....Do not by any means assume he will walk all over every one in 155. Immediately upon dropping he is a threat to the title, but your not the champ till you get in and beat the champ.
Lack of the UFC having another really built up contender at 155 lined up behinds hermes also makes sense for bj to get the next shot assuming he beats pulver...i mean who else have the built up for that, perhaps joe stevenson?
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Post #6 6/12/07 7:03:24PM
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Ultimate_fighter
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BJ is gonna get the 155 belt, and hopefully, trains hard to get welterweight..
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Post #7 6/12/07 7:59:58PM
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I hope he can get the Lightweight belt, but I just dont wanna see him take on Sherk, well I do but I wouldnt be able to pick on that, like my 2 favorites in the LW Division...
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Post #8 6/12/07 8:57:58PM
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Brownsfan222
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 169-91
Season: 11-7 (#6475)
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I think BJ would clean house at 155. I'm not going to say that BJ gassed in the Hughes fight because you dont go from whippin Matt Hughes ass one round then come out and not be able to do anything. I think he could be the top fighter at 155 and 170 and hold both belts but I would much rather see him at 155 because 170 is pretty stacked as is, and there are many exciting opportunities for BJ at 155.
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Post #9 6/13/07 1:35:08AM
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Northrend
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BJ Penn is worst case scenario for Joe Steveson imo, no way he can sub him and BJ is better at every other aspect. Also has anyone noticed that if Joe can't get the sub in the first round he starts to fade later in the fight? Maybe its just me..but thats why im picking Kurt Pellegrino.
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Post #10 6/13/07 2:52:44AM
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Graveyard Mod
Career record: 215-127
Season: 45-25 (#1157)
Location: Santa Fe, TX
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Posted by Northrend
BJ Penn is worst case scenario for Joe Steveson imo, no way he can sub him and BJ is better at every other aspect. Also has anyone noticed that if Joe can't get the sub in the first round he starts to fade later in the fight? Maybe its just me..but thats why im picking Kurt Pellegrino.
I agree about BJ being a worst case scenario for Joe. However, Pellegrino only wins his fights via sub. Joe daddy hasn't been submitted in over 7 years. Pellegrino will not beat Joe.
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Post #11 6/13/07 4:06:14AM
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Damien6663
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BJ is probably the worst matchup for joe, but joe will win his next fight he is on a different level.
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Post #12 6/13/07 6:22:55PM
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Northrend
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Posted by ac_gi
Posted by Northrend
BJ Penn is worst case scenario for Joe Steveson imo, no way he can sub him and BJ is better at every other aspect. Also has anyone noticed that if Joe can't get the sub in the first round he starts to fade later in the fight? Maybe its just me..but thats why im picking Kurt Pellegrino.
I agree about BJ being a worst case scenario for Joe. However, Pellegrino only wins his fights via sub. Joe daddy hasn't been submitted in over 7 years. Pellegrino will not beat Joe.
I don't think he will sub Joe either..I do think he can decision him though.
Last edited 6/13/07 10:11PM by Northrend
Edit note/reason: spelling
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Post #13 6/13/07 10:11:41PM
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kimoron
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unless bj losses hes definately going to be #1 at 155 in my book. i dont see anyone at 155 being able to take him out. not to say that hes unbeatable but there doesnt seem to be too many fighters at lw in the ufc that can pose a real threat to penn.
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Post #14 6/14/07 2:10:56AM
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Believe-in-judo81
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He has all the tools to tear it up at 155 but everything I've heard from him suggests he intends to go back to 170 after this bout. That said, if he doesn't just retire after another run at WW I could see him being a force at LW again, and very possibly taking the belt.
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Post #15 6/14/07 3:07:02AM
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