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Gabriel Gonzaga to challenge ruling on fight with Travis Browne

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Gonzaga gave up a TKO Loss to Browne after a series of elbows that put him into unconsciousness. Gabriel's team now intends to challenge the conclusion, arguing that the fight ending blows landed illegally.

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Post #1   4/14/13 9:37:45PM   

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for some reason, i feel like he might actually get it over turned

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Posted by george112

for some reason, i feel like he might actually get it over turned



Hope not. Those elbows were legal except for one. Big John thought so too.

Post #3   4/14/13 9:48:32PM   

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When I watched it I thought there was going to be a controversy too...let them rematch at worst.

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Meh no different than when a fighter is out via punches and gets a few to the back of the head in the process of slumping/ turning over etc.

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Here's a pretty good slow motion replay of the shots.

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Posted by Playground_Samurai

Here's a pretty good slow motion replay of the shots.



after watching that video it does look like they were in the back of the head. im not 100% sure on the details of "12-to-6" elbow rule, but that last elbow looked like it came almost straight down. i didn't think it was controversial when it happened but not i think gonzaga has a case to get it overturned. i guess we'll wait and see. i think brown has a much brighter future in the ufc than gonzaga

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I counted 1, maybe 2 in total but the ones that initially put him out seemed pretty legal to me.

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Posted by Playground_Samurai

Here's a pretty good slow motion replay of the shots.



The elbows in the video are only the last two elbows thrown. There are 2-3 before that point. The guy says the one to back of the head was the one to put him out but it wasn't. The last elbow was to the back of the neck, which I'm not sure is illegal or not. Either way though, he was out before the final two.

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I think its pretty clear that at least some of those elbows are illegally hitting him int he back of the head (the Back of the neck is off limits as well)

I don't think they were 12-6 elbows though and I can't tell if it was an illegal elbow that ultimately knocked Gonzaga out.

To me this reminds me of Cote vs Sakara, except the referee made the opposite call this time. Who knows if it will be overturned but I'm glad I got the 11 pts.

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Posted by Shawn91111

Meh no different than when a fighter is out via punches and gets a few to the back of the head in the process of slumping/ turning over etc.



Actually it makes a HUUUUGE difference in my opinion. I haven't rewatched this particular fight to see how many (or if any) were illegal, so won't go one way or another on this particular occasion.
However, in general I think it makes a huge difference for the 1, sole reason that "comebacks" are even possible. Think of ANY fight, ever, where a particular fighter seemed to be completely 100% out, yet the ref let it continue & that fighter came back to win. Just a recent example off the top of my head is Kongo vs Pat Barry...Kongo looked out, so you're saying if there had been a few (OR EVEN 1) shot to the back of the head that made ALL THE DIFFERENCE in him, subsequently, reaching a state of unconsciousness, that it would be of absolutely no consequence...since he was "already out & done anyway" (as we, the public may have seen it)??

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In a fight that ends via KO because of a gnp onslaught, it is practically impossible to pinpoint the ONE SINGLE SHOT that put the opposing fighter out, so if there are 99 completely legitimate strikes & 1 illegal, there's still a chance that the illegal shot made all the difference & can subsequently be argued that the losing fighter, in the absence of that illegality, could/would have come back & racked up the W.

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There was one illegal blow after Gonzaga was already out,and there was no way he would of been allowed to carry on like Kongo was as he was limp, so it would of made no difference to the outcome of the fight. He should take his loss like a man instead of moaning after the event

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Posted by Shawn91111

Meh no different than when a fighter is out via punches and gets a few to the back of the head in the process of slumping/ turning over etc.



if gonzaga gets his decision overturned i want my av bet overturned.

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I saw 1 land as the fight was being stopped, and 1 after.
challenge denied.

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Posted by Tyzzler


Posted by Shawn91111

Meh no different than when a fighter is out via punches and gets a few to the back of the head in the process of slumping/ turning over etc.



Actually it makes a HUUUUGE difference in my opinion. I haven't rewatched this particular fight to see how many (or if any) were illegal, so won't go one way or another on this particular occasion.
However, in general I think it makes a huge difference for the 1, sole reason that "comebacks" are even possible. Think of ANY fight, ever, where a particular fighter seemed to be completely 100% out, yet the ref let it continue & that fighter came back to win. Just a recent example off the top of my head is Kongo vs Pat Barry...Kongo looked out, so you're saying if there had been a few (OR EVEN 1) shot to the back of the head that made ALL THE DIFFERENCE in him, subsequently, reaching a state of unconsciousness, that it would be of absolutely no consequence...since he was "already out & done anyway" (as we, the public may have seen it)??

.....EDIT TO SAY.....
In a fight that ends via KO because of a gnp onslaught, it is practically impossible to pinpoint the ONE SINGLE SHOT that put the opposing fighter out, so if there are 99 completely legitimate strikes & 1 illegal, there's still a chance that the illegal shot made all the difference & can subsequently be argued that the losing fighter, in the absence of that illegality, could/would have come back & racked up the W.




The hell are you rambling on about

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