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UFC's Michael Bisping wants rematch with 'f---ing cheat' Vitor Belfort

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somebody needs to tell vitor to get a new pair of shorts. ewie

Post #16   2/16/13 2:46:16AM   

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Posted by Travesty145

somebody needs to tell vitor to get a new pair of shorts. ewie



And tell him him that Synthetic Testosterone Replacement therapy is Cheating too !!!

Post #17   2/16/13 5:26:05AM   

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Posted by Coolhand37

Your a twitt and u suck!!



not exactly the best way to open an argument. everything you say after this doesnt even matter.

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Post #18   2/16/13 5:42:47AM   

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This is the only instance in which I have a problem with TRT. An exemption shouldn't be granted to someone that's been popped for PED's in the past.

Bisping's not wrong, IMO.

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Post #19   2/16/13 7:52:26AM   

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Posted by Coolhand37

Your a twitt and u suck!! anybody that needs trt to be a professional athlete is obviously competing in the wrong sex classification, his levels were 12 to one so he needed a doctors note because he is a cheating bitch!! fuck him!! bullshit!!!



Present your comments with maturity or don't present them at all.

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Post #20   2/16/13 7:53:39AM   

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TRT user 5 weeks in


T and PEDs differ in structure, biochemistry and use. The medical use of T is for men with testosterone deficiency, usually manifested by fatigue, diminished sex drive and a constellation of other symptoms. The goal of treatment is to improve symptoms by getting the testosterone into a normal range. There are a variety of means of testosterone replacement including gels, creams, trans-dermal patches, pellets and injections. All of these formulations are FDA approved and provide testosterone that is identical to that of the testosterone that is present in our bodies under normal circumstances. Testosterone levels are checked periodically to ensure that the testosterone is in the normal range.

PEDs are most often manufactured clandestinely at small labs to avoid FDA scrutiny; they are sometimes obtained through veterinarians, pharmacists or physicians, and are often procured on the black market. They are intended solely to build muscle mass, strength and improve athletic performance, so their use is beyond the domain of standard medical practice. PEDs favor anabolic (muscle building) over androgenic (pertaining to the development of male characteristics) effects.

The vast majority of the time, PEDs are provided illicitly by a trainer without special expertise in this area. The goal is a super-high testosterone level, often ten times or more than normal levels. Dopers often use the equivalent of 1000 mg or greater of T per week. PEDs are not the chemical equivalent of T and there is no medical monitoring of users. Popular PEDs include nandrolone and stanozolol, which were FDA approved years ago, but now have no medical indications. “Designer” PEDs are often concocted by modifying T; their advantage is that monitoring organizations lack the wherewithal to detect them because of their unique chemical formulations. The two common patterns of PED usage are stacking and cycling. Stacking is using two or more PEDs simultaneously whereas cycling is an on—off schedule of use.

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Post #21   2/16/13 8:39:55AM   

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shut up bisping...with or without TRT, steroids, etc...you got ko'd...how bout a henderson rematch? i coul watch that alllll day

Post #22   2/16/13 5:32:55PM   

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Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest

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Posted by Boo_Radley21

Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest


he got lucky against tank. just sayin

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A lot of bizarre contradictory statements on here, but nothing new there.

The rules require to be tightened. People are getting away with using performance enhancing drugs which is destroying the sport.

Irrespective what fighter you like, hate, nut-hug, 'legal' use of steroids is fucking bullshit.

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Posted by mrsmiley

TRT = the abortion topic of MMA.

What's legally acceptable versus what some find morally inacceptable.

If Dans in the legally accepted level of Test, then (correct me if i'm wrong) doesn't that mean that most athletes could reach those same levels naturally?



Not really, no. The allowed ratio is 3:1 whereas most men are 1:1.


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Posted by Boo_Radley21

Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest


he got lucky against tank. just sayin



Really? Lol.

Can't believe I just read that. Not only is it silly to talk about that now, since the fight was so many years ago, but there was nothing lucky about that fight. Tank was a can-crusher but Vitor is an elite fighter.

Post #26   2/17/13 9:39:37PM   

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Posted by bjj1605


Posted by mrsmiley

TRT = the abortion topic of MMA.

What's legally acceptable versus what some find morally inacceptable.

If Dans in the legally accepted level of Test, then (correct me if i'm wrong) doesn't that mean that most athletes could reach those same levels naturally?



Not really, no. The allowed ratio is 3:1 whereas most men are 1:1.


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Posted by Boo_Radley21

Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest


he got lucky against tank. just sayin



Really? Lol.

Can't believe I just read that. Not only is it silly to talk about that now, since the fight was so many years ago, but there was nothing lucky about that fight. Tank was a can-crusher but Vitor is an elite fighter.

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Posted by bjj1605


Posted by mrsmiley

TRT = the abortion topic of MMA.

What's legally acceptable versus what some find morally inacceptable.

If Dans in the legally accepted level of Test, then (correct me if i'm wrong) doesn't that mean that most athletes could reach those same levels naturally?



Not really, no. The allowed ratio is 3:1 whereas most men are 1:1.


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Posted by Boo_Radley21

Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest


he got lucky against tank. just sayin



Really? Lol.

Can't believe I just read that. Not only is it silly to talk about that now, since the fight was so many years ago, but there was nothing lucky about that fight. Tank was a can-crusher but Vitor is an elite fighter.



So if the average is 1:1 then this becomes the moral issue verse the legal issue. For me personally, If I was a fighter I might just say If you can't beat em,join em, and sign up for TRT if I could, but I could very well see why for some that defeats the purpose.
If guys like Hendo and Chael are within the law,then I can't see solely pointing them out when so many others are busted taking illegal substances.

For me,when it comes to Bisping I can see his frustration but in all honesty,to me and others he's a very solid mid-tier fighter who on a good night could hold his own or possibly, by the slimmest hair take out a top name.
Even if Dan was on TRT in their fight that doesn't change the fact Mikey was walking right into Dans fist,which hendo made no point in hiding or setting up the entire time.
Bispings problem I think has more to do with strategy rather than the TRT his opponents are taking.

Tough subject for sure. I can see both sides but that's how I take it.

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Posted by bjj1605


Posted by mrsmiley

TRT = the abortion topic of MMA.

What's legally acceptable versus what some find morally inacceptable.

If Dans in the legally accepted level of Test, then (correct me if i'm wrong) doesn't that mean that most athletes could reach those same levels naturally?



Not really, no. The allowed ratio is 3:1 whereas most men are 1:1.


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Posted by Boo_Radley21

Been a huge fan of Vitor since he fucked Abbott up. That being said, TRT is gay but i support Belfort to the fullest


he got lucky against tank. just sayin



Really? Lol.

Can't believe I just read that. Not only is it silly to talk about that now, since the fight was so many years ago, but there was nothing lucky about that fight. Tank was a can-crusher but Vitor is an elite fighter.



his return is coming. youll see. youll all see

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Even if Bisping gets his re-match, What will be different ?

Vitor is still going to be using TRT.

People need to accept losing and dealing with their mediocrity a little better.

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