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Video emerges of UFC Lightweight Rustam Khabilov flipping the bird, throwing ice on a McDonald's customer

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Post #16   12/18/12 5:59:25PM   

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I know him, he's a good dude. Used to make picks here before he started writing for them. Unfortunately bloody elbow strikes me as borderline tabloid at times. It's like the TMZ of fight journalism.



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If she was indeed making fun of him beforehand then she got what she deserved. He made her accountable for her actions. Maybe it taught her to not make fun of people anymore. This is petty though. If she makes fun of the wrong person she might get more than ice thrown on her. I cold be wrong but I do believe that throwing ice on someone would be considered 2nd degree aggravated harassment. I found it quite funny actually. It was nothing more than some harmless "street justice" in my eyes.

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. I just think it's in poor taste for an athlete, especially one with the skill set of a fighter, to initiate physical contact with someone who is obviously not in a position to defend themself. Especially over "making fun" of someone.




He didn't initiate physical contact with her. He threw a drink on her.

Not a big deal.

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. I just think it's in poor taste for an athlete, especially one with the skill set of a fighter, to initiate physical contact with someone who is obviously not in a position to defend themself. Especially over "making fun" of someone.




He didn't initiate physical contact with her. He threw a drink on her.

Not a big deal.



If something touches, you be it a person, or something thrown or manipulated by a person, that is by definition physical contact. And in case you disagree look it up, it's also considered so by law.

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Posted by NE-1
. I just think it's in poor taste for an athlete, especially one with the skill set of a fighter, to initiate physical contact with someone who is obviously not in a position to defend themself. Especially over "making fun" of someone.




He didn't initiate physical contact with her. He threw a drink on her.

Not a big deal.



If that's the way it worked, you'd see a lot more of people tossing acid on each other.

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Posted by bjj1605


Posted by NE-1
. I just think it's in poor taste for an athlete, especially one with the skill set of a fighter, to initiate physical contact with someone who is obviously not in a position to defend themself. Especially over "making fun" of someone.




He didn't initiate physical contact with her. He threw a drink on her.

Not a big deal.



Just cause I can't sleep. ...

"There are many behaviors and actions that can be classified as a battery, but any battery must involve physical contact with another person's body, clothes or even an "attachment" to their body such as an object in their hand. The physical contact can be done with a part of the defendant's own body (like a fist) or with an object controlled by the defendant. In all cases, the contact must be made on purpose."

Misdemeanor Battery (Simple Battery - Penal Code § 242)The prosecution must prove the following facts to convict a defendant of misdemeanor battery:Intent – the defendant intended to make physical contact with the victim Physical Contact – the defendant made actual physical contact with the victim, the victim's clothes, or something attached to the victim such as something in the victim's handViolent, Painful or Offensive Contact – in addition to violent or painful contact, non-violent contact that is nonetheless offensive to the victim can be charged as batteryNo Consent - the victim did not somehow agree to the physical contact

You're right though, misdemeanor battery on a woman, so not a big deal.

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Posted by bjj1605


Posted by NE-1
. I just think it's in poor taste for an athlete, especially one with the skill set of a fighter, to initiate physical contact with someone who is obviously not in a position to defend themself. Especially over "making fun" of someone.




He didn't initiate physical contact with her. He threw a drink on her.

Not a big deal.



So you'd be cool with someone throwing a drink over you? "oh hey thats alright man, I'll get another drink for you"

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Fucking Jackson fighters... I wouldn't be surprised if he greased himself with the fries before he hurled his drink.

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Some 13 year chick threw soda on me in line for a roller coaster. It was annoying but I survived and didn't feel the need to press charges for assault or whatever definition you can assign to it, regardless of what the law says. If my gf was being a total bitch to someone and they dumped soda on her I would probably say she deserved it...my couch is comfy enough.

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Posted by NE-1

Just cause I can't sleep. ...

"There are many behaviors and actions that can be classified as a battery, but any battery must involve physical contact with another person's body, clothes or even an "attachment" to their body such as an object in their hand. The physical contact can be done with a part of the defendant's own body (like a fist) or with an object controlled by the defendant. In all cases, the contact must be made on purpose."

Misdemeanor Battery (Simple Battery - Penal Code § 242)The prosecution must prove the following facts to convict a defendant of misdemeanor battery:Intent – the defendant intended to make physical contact with the victim Physical Contact – the defendant made actual physical contact with the victim, the victim's clothes, or something attached to the victim such as something in the victim's handViolent, Painful or Offensive Contact – in addition to violent or painful contact, non-violent contact that is nonetheless offensive to the victim can be charged as batteryNo Consent - the victim did not somehow agree to the physical contact

You're right though, misdemeanor battery on a woman, so not a big deal.



I love when people do this.

I don't know what state that code is from but it is literally different everywhere. For instance, in Illinois, there is only one circumstance where throwing something can be battery.


(3) Knowingly causes or attempts to cause a correctional institution employee or Department of Human Services employee to come into contact with blood, seminal fluid, urine, or feces by throwing, tossing, or expelling the fluid or material, and the person is an inmate of a penal institution or is a sexually dangerous person or sexually violent person in the custody of the Department of Human Services.


Assuming she wasn't a "correctional institution employee" and that he wasn't "sexually dangerous person" this isn't battery by Illinois definitions.

More importantly, I'm not trying to be Khabilov's lawyer. I think what he did was kind of a douche move but not really anything to get worked up about.

Whether your state legally defines "throwing water" as battery or not is irrelevant to the conversation. By any common sense definition, throwing something is not initiating contact. You have to be physically touching.

Edit: Pretty much this


Posted by airkerma

Some 13 year chick threw soda on me in line for a roller coaster. It was annoying but I survived and didn't feel the need to press charges for assault or whatever definition you can assign to it, regardless of what the law says. If my gf was being a total bitch to someone and they dumped soda on her I would probably say she deserved it...my couch is comfy enough.

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Posted by infestructure

So you'd be cool with someone throwing a drink over you? "oh hey thats alright man, I'll get another drink for you"



I actually got in a fight in high school for just this reason.

But you are putting words in my mouth. I'm not saying that girl doesn't have a right to be upset. Obviously she should be pissed.

But WE (as in the MMA community) have nothing to be upset about. This isn't a video of him violently putting the beat down on some innocent girl. She just got wet and possibly sticky.

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Posted by bjj1605


Posted by NE-1

Just cause I can't sleep. ...

"There are many behaviors and actions that can be classified as a battery, but any battery must involve physical contact with another person's body, clothes or even an "attachment" to their body such as an object in their hand. The physical contact can be done with a part of the defendant's own body (like a fist) or with an object controlled by the defendant. In all cases, the contact must be made on purpose."

Misdemeanor Battery (Simple Battery - Penal Code § 242)The prosecution must prove the following facts to convict a defendant of misdemeanor battery:Intent – the defendant intended to make physical contact with the victim Physical Contact – the defendant made actual physical contact with the victim, the victim's clothes, or something attached to the victim such as something in the victim's handViolent, Painful or Offensive Contact – in addition to violent or painful contact, non-violent contact that is nonetheless offensive to the victim can be charged as batteryNo Consent - the victim did not somehow agree to the physical contact

You're right though, misdemeanor battery on a woman, so not a big deal.



I love when people do this.

I don't know what state that code is from but it is literally different everywhere. For instance, in Illinois, there is only one circumstance where throwing something can be battery.


(3) Knowingly causes or attempts to cause a correctional institution employee or Department of Human Services employee to come into contact with blood, seminal fluid, urine, or feces by throwing, tossing, or expelling the fluid or material, and the person is an inmate of a penal institution or is a sexually dangerous person or sexually violent person in the custody of the Department of Human Services.


Assuming she wasn't a "correctional institution employee" and that he wasn't "sexually dangerous person" this isn't battery by Illinois definitions.

More importantly, I'm not trying to be Khabilov's lawyer. I think what he did was kind of a douche move but not really anything to get worked up about.

Whether your state legally defines "throwing water" as battery or not is irrelevant to the conversation. By any common sense definition, throwing something is not initiating contact. You have to be physically touching.

Edit: Pretty much this


Posted by airkerma

Some 13 year chick threw soda on me in line for a roller coaster. It was annoying but I survived and didn't feel the need to press charges for assault or whatever definition you can assign to it, regardless of what the law says. If my gf was being a total bitch to someone and they dumped soda on her I would probably say she deserved it...my couch is comfy enough.




http://www.criminallawyerillinois.com/2010/04/18/i-got-arrested-for-battery-what-are-the-penalties-under-illinois-law/

Might wanna let this lawyer and the several others that come up under a simple Google search kniw they are wrong... good job though chief

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