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The sport isn't dying, the PPV model is dying a slow death though.

The economy sucks and people just aren't willing to spend 50-60$ a month for a few fights.

Even if the UFC isn't making as much money per show as they were a year ago, they are still making a boatload of money.

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the economy was worse in 2009 and 2010 and yet ufc's PPV numbers were amazing those years. there were also more ppv events those years so people were spending for ppv's more often.

ufc is making money, but the evidence is kinda irrefutable. the sport of mma is fading

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the economy was worse in 2009 and 2010 and yet ufc's PPV numbers were amazing those years. there were also more ppv events those years so people were spending for ppv's more often.

ufc is making money, but the evidence is kinda irrefutable. the sport of mma is fading



The last couple years have also seen a rise in the number and quality of free shows like those on Versus, FX and Fox.

A lot of people are unwilling to shell out 50-60 Dollars for a product they are getting for free half the time.

MMA isn't going anywhere, its not going to be rivaling the NFL or MLB but its not dying either.

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and you just touched on the other side of equation. the ratings for those free shows are in the dumps too. TUF ratings are at all time lows. UFC on fox ratings have collapsed since it's 1st show.

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I feel like Carlos Condit's draw was hurt from the Diaz fight.Not that he was a huge draw or anything but before the Diaz fight he seemed like the sort of guy that was really active and always kept coming forward trying to finish the fight.The impression after the Diaz fight was that he used a good gameplan and avoided staying with Diaz and took a hit and run sort of approach and focusing more on points and winning the rounds.



The whole fight was promoted on both guys being finishers and that they are the kind of guys that bring it and will put it all on the line. By the end of the promotion I was expecting the the guys to be brought into the cage on chains like pitbulls, but then Condit comes out and tries to win on points for 5 rounds.

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Posted by shaneTpain

Fuck PPV anyways.. The price is getting out of hand up here! I can hardly afford to pay my cable bill as it is!! I'm POOR!!!


if you are a Rogers customer, be prepared for a price increase. They need to fund the recent Jays acquisitions

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Posted by Jackwio

and you just touched on the other side of equation. the ratings for those free shows are in the dumps too. TUF ratings are at all time lows. UFC on fox ratings have collapsed since it's 1st show.


TUF is also nearing the same # of seasons as Survivor and its getting tired and redundant. Are Survivors current numbers the same as during the first couple seasons?

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i don't know about survivors ratings, nor do i care. on top of that the point you are trying to make isn't a good point. given that the drop in TUF's ratings coincides with all the other drops(ppv buys, ufc on fox ratings, prelim ratings, fuel ratings, and hell even the sales of the ufc video games) over the course of the last 2 years.

due to all these signs of failure it is more logical to question if mma is in trouble rather then question if the ratings drop is just due to TUF getting tired and redundant.

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Posted by Jackwio

and you just touched on the other side of equation. the ratings for those free shows are in the dumps too. TUF ratings are at all time lows. UFC on fox ratings have collapsed since it's 1st show.


TUF is also nearing the same # of seasons as Survivor and its getting tired and redundant. Are Survivors current numbers the same as during the first couple seasons?



That's actually a good point, the mystique disappears from shows that were fresh ideas with revolving casts after awhile. Sitcoms can last because you're building characters and then people know them and what to expect, reality shows don't have that luxury.

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Posted by FlashyG

The sport isn't dying, the PPV model is dying a slow death though.

The economy sucks and people just aren't willing to spend 50-60$ a month for a few fights.

Even if the UFC isn't making as much money per show as they were a year ago, they are still making a boatload of money.



How do these numbers compare to Fox views, out of curiosity?

I rarely pay attention to the numbers. But are free cards doing well?

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Posted by Jackwio

i don't see how anyone can spin these numbers as being good.

for starters 680k-700k was lower then gsp's last few fights.

second,due to the long lay off and the excitement of his return it was expected ufc 154 would generate 800k-1m buys.

third its also known that the the arena did'nt sell out, pulling in a smaller live gate then last time gsp faught there.

these numbers further confirm that the UFC is in trouble. even gsp's popularity seems to be fading.

perhaps mma is the fastest dying sport in the world?



LOL, at the MMA is dying, and the UFC is in trouble. Just last week, it was said they're already talking an extension with Fox, after 1yr into their deal. There is some room for improvement, but it's definitely not dying.

That number for GSP is pretty good, considering that the main card was pretty weak, compared to most other GSP featured cards. Just take a look at the talent on the previous ones, some had another title fight on it, or look at the Shields card, had Randy's last fight.

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Posted by FlashyG

The sport isn't dying, the PPV model is dying a slow death though.

The economy sucks and people just aren't willing to spend 50-60$ a month for a few fights.

Even if the UFC isn't making as much money per show as they were a year ago, they are still making a boatload of money.



How do these numbers compare to Fox views, out of curiosity?

I rarely pay attention to the numbers. But are free cards doing well?



The first one did very well at an average of 5.7 million viewers, the second dipped to 4.7 million, the 3rd and 4th dropped significantly to 2.4 million, but were up against the NBA playoffs and a Floyd Mayweather fight for #3, and the Summer Olympics for #4

So on average live Fox events at their worst are attracting around 4 times the audience of their PPV cards.

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The first one did very well at an average of 5.7 million viewers, the second dipped to 4.7 million, the 3rd and 4th dropped significantly to 2.4 million, but were up against the NBA playoffs and a Floyd Mayweather fight for #3, and the Summer Olympics for #4

So on average live Fox events at their worst are attracting around 4 times the audience of their PPV cards.


that is a bit misleading. You are comparing buys to viewers. 700,000 PPV buys doesn't mean 700,000 viewers

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Posted by FlashyG
The first one did very well at an average of 5.7 million viewers, the second dipped to 4.7 million, the 3rd and 4th dropped significantly to 2.4 million, but were up against the NBA playoffs and a Floyd Mayweather fight for #3, and the Summer Olympics for #4

So on average live Fox events at their worst are attracting around 4 times the audience of their PPV cards.


that is a bit misleading. You are comparing buys to viewers. 700,000 PPV buys doesn't mean 700,000 viewers



Whatever could you possibly mean?

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