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Early estimates for UFC 154 show the event doing 700,000 PPV buys as Georges St. Pierre returned to the Octagon.

UFC 154 featured the return to the UFC of Georges St. Pierre as he defended his welterweight title against interim champion Carlos Condit. Not only did the fight turn out to be exciting with a tremendous atmosphere, but the early estimates for PPV business are very solid.

Via the Wrestling Observer newsletter (subscription required):

"Preliminary estimates for UFC 154 were 680,000 to 700,000 buys, with huge numbers in Canada, really strong in places like Saskatoon and Edmonton. It's in line or just below the Jon Jones vs. Rashad Evans numbers from earlier this year, so probably third for the year overall. It's lower than what GSP has been doing the last few years, but overall business is down from 2010 and Carlos Condit isn't in the league with Dan Hardy and Josh Koscheck when it came to building a grudge and marketing a fight, not that he did badly. Plus, the pub wasn't there. With Hardy, his Countdown shows on Spike were a lot bigger deal. With Koscheck, you had the entire season of TUF building the fight."

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Post #1   11/28/12 5:18:37PM   

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Those are pretty good numbers, for a somewhat weak main card.

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kind of hard to disagree there.

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I feel like Carlos Condit's draw was hurt from the Diaz fight.Not that he was a huge draw or anything but before the Diaz fight he seemed like the sort of guy that was really active and always kept coming forward trying to finish the fight.The impression after the Diaz fight was that he used a good gameplan and avoided staying with Diaz and took a hit and run sort of approach and focusing more on points and winning the rounds.

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All I have to say is that Dave Meltzer is often times wrong when it comes to numbers. He had stated that Overeem and Lesnar was 900 000 buys and when the results came in and barely half that ordered it he never apologized. The dudes a maniac when it comes to info in regards to MMA or wrestling but sometimes he can be off and more often than not when it comes to buys and numbers, they aren't his strong suit.

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pretty close to Anderson's #s in his last 3 fights.........





























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Posted by Wallass

All I have to say is that Dave Meltzer is often times wrong when it comes to numbers. He had stated that Overeem and Lesnar was 900 000 buys and when the results came in and barely half that ordered it he never apologized. The dudes a maniac when it comes to info in regards to MMA or wrestling but sometimes he can be off and more often than not when it comes to buys and numbers, they aren't his strong suit.



Early numbers are only estimates and would account for a discrepancy, but I have a hard time believing he proposed 900k. Source?

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Posted by Wallass

All I have to say is that Dave Meltzer is often times wrong when it comes to numbers. He had stated that Overeem and Lesnar was 900 000 buys and when the results came in and barely half that ordered it he never apologized. The dudes a maniac when it comes to info in regards to MMA or wrestling but sometimes he can be off and more often than not when it comes to buys and numbers, they aren't his strong suit.



Reem/Brock did 750k, so he wasn't to far off. Like Grapler said, it's usually early numbers too.

**EDIT** Just looked up the whole Meltzer thing, he said it did 750K, but it ended up being 535K

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Not all gsp though

The whole sell of champion vs champion with condit did help a lot

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Fuck PPV anyways.. The price is getting out of hand up here! I can hardly afford to pay my cable bill as it is!! I'm POOR!!!

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Posted by shaneTpain

Fuck PPV anyways.. The price is getting out of hand up here! I can hardly afford to pay my cable bill as it is!! I'm POOR!!!



Im right with you; i usually just go to a bar for the fights, so a couple drinks is cheaper than buying HD ppv (non-HD just is not the same). but it is nice to be able to sit at home and watch it.

GSP's next one will be bigger since this was along layoff plus outside the co and main i thought the card was pretty weak. still solid numbers for a guy who hasn't fought in 18 months to still have that big of a fan base.

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Posted by Wallass

All I have to say is that Dave Meltzer is often times wrong when it comes to numbers. He had stated that Overeem and Lesnar was 900 000 buys and when the results came in and barely half that ordered it he never apologized. The dudes a maniac when it comes to info in regards to MMA or wrestling but sometimes he can be off and more often than not when it comes to buys and numbers, they aren't his strong suit.



Reem/Brock did 750k, so he wasn't to far off. Like Grapler said, it's usually early numbers too.

**EDIT** Just looked up the whole Meltzer thing, he said it did 750K, but it ended up being 535K

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I guess I'm no better than Dave if I dont right a retraction. I must have been wrong but I have been a paid member of his site for three years now and thought he had said Reem vs Brock was an estimate of 900 000 buys in January of this year. I must have been off a little and it looks like it was 750 as Buffalo Dave mentioned.

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i don't see how anyone can spin these numbers as being good.

for starters 680k-700k was lower then gsp's last few fights.

second,due to the long lay off and the excitement of his return it was expected ufc 154 would generate 800k-1m buys.

third its also known that the the arena did'nt sell out, pulling in a smaller live gate then last time gsp faught there.

these numbers further confirm that the UFC is in trouble. even gsp's popularity seems to be fading.

perhaps mma is the fastest dying sport in the world?

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