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“You’re Either Fighters or You’re Not,” Dana White Unsure Who Cheick Kongo is Waiting For

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After the debacle that resulted in the UFC 151 cancellation in September, the focus has seemingly been not on fighters that are stepping up to keep fights together, but the ones that are turning down fights, for whatever reason.

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Post #1   11/19/12 3:18:45PM   

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Cut him then Dana. Were past the point of thinking muscle bound fighters are legit top fighters anyways and Kongo has been in some TERRIBLE fights as of late. That being said, Barry vs Kongo was one of the most fun fights I've ever seen, why not rematch them?

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Maybe Dana should treat everyone as equals instead of giving special treatment to certain guys in an effort to save his reality show.

Post #3   11/19/12 4:21:08PM   

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any idea what the other fight he was referring to? Could it have been on the all HW card?

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Posted by Goatenstein

Maybe Dana should treat everyone as equals instead of giving special treatment to certain guys in an effort to save his reality show.



guys and "gals" who get belts for no reason

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Somebody get crybaby Dana a tissue.

Post #6   11/19/12 5:02:58PM   

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Yeah you're either fighters or you're trying to earn a living employed by a company that cuts guys who step up then lose and reduces your pay by half if you lose. What a super duper way to motivate people!

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Well done Dana, way to look like a dick.

Just cause he says no to fighting Nelson on 4 weeks notice when he's currently on holiday. In the last 6 fights he's 4-1-1 with 2 finishes and a Knockout of the night and Comeback of the year. If the UFC was all about being exciting Danny Downes would still have a contract. It's clearly not, Kongo is in a position where he can wait for a fighter he wants to fight he's 37, he gets paid $140,000 ($70,000 win bonus) his UFC record is 10-6-1.

I think Kongo's been smart, pick up his 140,000 for easy wins without being in fights that get him too badly banged up, it might not be entertaining and dana might cry over it but it sure as hell beats the way bob sapp's making his money

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I like kongo

I just think he won't fight on a half camp not full
Curious to see if he takes the fight vs defries

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I haven't got to read the article yet. This is just my first impression.
The headline alone sounds vicious. Kongo is obviously a fighter. I don't think their's any mistake about that.

I'm pondering here,that perhaps the days of the UFC" company man " is over.
It seems as if so much is at stake now,the sport is bigger,the chances to make it or break it seem slimmer,the fighters are more business savy, in the sense their watching their own asses and images more than going out and stepping up at the risk of looking like a fool in the end. ( I wonder how many UFC fighters contemplate coming out to the octagon with Metallica's Disposable Heroes bleeding out of the speakers?)
Of course their are some left. Franklin considers himself this kind of fighter but perhaps fighters who feel less financially secure or are afraid of losing something will no longer take these risk as much?
Perhaps Jones not taking on Chael at the last minute says as much about the state of the sport now as it does the individual star?

You could really go down the rabbit hole here I think,and it's certainly a slippery slope. All it would take is one well established name to make claims that the huge surge these past few years in the increased ped usages are just as much to blame on the companies way of dealing with business,as much as it is the individual in question to really stir debate. Time could show that Zuffa is certainly modeling themselves in the image of the WWE in more ways than marketing.

Just some food for thought.

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Posted by airkerma

Yeah you're either fighters or you're trying to earn a living employed by a company that cuts guys who step up then lose and reduces your pay by half if you lose. What a super duper way to motivate people!



I was thinking something similar.
These guys are in a really tough position considering the different expectations put on them.


These guys are expected to be F*CKING FIGHTERS who lay it all on the line for honor and macho-cred, but they are also supposed to be businessmen and independent contractors with families to support.

These two characterizations are often at odds with one another. It's fascinating.

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Haven't the last two fights Kongo has been offered been short notice fights?! Dana needs to hush up on this area considering he's cutting guys after short notice fight losses.

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Grab a sliver of class Dana... freaking Hardo... shit gets old after awhile... then everybody shakes his hand and kisses his ass.... runs shit like freaking Tony Soprano.

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I remember Dana blasting BJ for not training hard enough because BJ has the same "you're either a fighter or not" philosophy and Dana wanted him to train harder for fights.....signed many weeks in advance, now he's going to blast guys for wanting to train for fights? you cant throw short notice fight offers at guys then get mad when they want to train for it, then come out and say "you're a fighter or not" you hypocrite

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Whatever happened to guys like Chuck Liddell who were willing to fight anyone anytime anywhere.

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