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According to the Post fight press conference, Someone said Vitor said that he had eased up on the armbar because he heard it pop and crunch. Jones later says that is a "testament to who Vitor is, a great guy" .. because he didn't break his arm...wtf? You never let an opportunity like this slide when you get the chance. Makes me a little upset with Vitor unless what he was saying was sort of lost in translation. Would anyone ever let a cinched up armbar on Jones go? Would you let go of a rattlesnake next to your face? I hope this isn't true, Vitor.

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Post #1   9/23/12 9:11:31PM   

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Yeah Vitor had a lot of excuses post fight...Not enough camp and he was injured during camp were other excuses....

IMO i think Jones was giving Vitor respect saying his arm was hurt....Would love the see some MRIs....I dont think he was hurt at all or in trouble....But the way Joe Rogan was screaming you woulda definitely thought it was the end....

With the way Jones is portrayed and the haters out there I think if anything Jones wants to be liked...So would he say, I was never in any danger? of course not caus ethen people would say how arrogant he is...

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Posted by kingsmasher

Yeah Vitor had a lot of excuses post fight...Not enough camp and he was injured during camp were other excuses....

IMO i think Jones was giving Vitor respect saying his arm was hurt....Would love the see some MRIs....I dont think he was hurt at all or in trouble....But the way Joe Rogan was screaming you woulda definitely thought it was the end....

With the way Jones is portrayed and the haters out there I think if anything Jones wants to be liked...So would he say, I was never in any danger? of course not caus ethen people would say how arrogant he is...



I don't see Belfort as someone who makes excuses. It's more likely he WAS injured but didn't want to back out from the fight since he's the one that stepped up to face Jones. If you think about it, Belfort is injury prone which wouldn't make the idea of an injury so far fetched, and rumor is it was his ribs that were injured, which would also explain why he fell in agony after Jones landed that body kick.

As for the armbar, Jones mentioned his arm was hurt in his corner.

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Posted by kingsmasher

Yeah Vitor had a lot of excuses post fight...Not enough camp and he was injured during camp were other excuses....

IMO i think Jones was giving Vitor respect saying his arm was hurt....Would love the see some MRIs....I dont think he was hurt at all or in trouble....But the way Joe Rogan was screaming you woulda definitely thought it was the end....

With the way Jones is portrayed and the haters out there I think if anything Jones wants to be liked...So would he say, I was never in any danger? of course not caus ethen people would say how arrogant he is...



I don't see Belfort as someone who makes excuses. It's more likely he WAS injured but didn't want to back out from the fight since he's the one that stepped up to face Jones. If you think about it, Belfort is injury prone which wouldn't make the idea of an injury so far fetched, and rumor is it was his ribs that were injured, which would also explain why he fell in agony after Jones landed that body kick.

As for the armbar, Jones mentioned his arm was hurt in his corner.



I think he fell from the kick from the kick itself....Basically first thing he said to Joe Rogan after fight was....I ahd short camp and was also injured...True or not they sounded like if he had a full camp and no injuries he woulda won....Not happening...I guess its how you look at it and who you like more...Eye of the beholder...

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It's a title fight, tap or snap. If this is true I am disappointed in him. Vitor needed a Frank Mir mentality last night as it's most likely his last chance to fight for a title...either you want it or you dont

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Posted by kingsmasher

I think he fell from the kick from the kick itself...



Definitely not the case. Re-watching it will erase any doubt.

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Posted by kingsmasher

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..I dont think he was hurt at all or in trouble......








if you belive that sentence your on jones nuts worse than cheal_sonnen is on Laurens



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Posted by kingsmasher

Yeah Vitor had a lot of excuses post fight...Not enough camp and he was injured during camp were other excuses....

IMO i think Jones was giving Vitor respect saying his arm was hurt....Would love the see some MRIs....I dont think he was hurt at all or in trouble....But the way Joe Rogan was screaming you woulda definitely thought it was the end....

With the way Jones is portrayed and the haters out there I think if anything Jones wants to be liked...So would he say, I was never in any danger? of course not caus ethen people would say how arrogant he is...



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Posted by kingsmasher

Yeah Vitor had a lot of excuses post fight...Not enough camp and he was injured during camp were other excuses....

IMO i think Jones was giving Vitor respect saying his arm was hurt....Would love the see some MRIs....I dont think he was hurt at all or in trouble....But the way Joe Rogan was screaming you woulda definitely thought it was the end....

With the way Jones is portrayed and the haters out there I think if anything Jones wants to be liked...So would he say, I was never in any danger? of course not caus ethen people would say how arrogant he is...



defending kingsmasher here, vitor did start with the excuses as soon as rogan started interviewing him which i found annoying.

dunno about the jones comments though dude.

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Posted by kingsmasher

Yeah Vitor had a lot of excuses post fight...Not enough camp and he was injured during camp were other excuses....

IMO i think Jones was giving Vitor respect saying his arm was hurt....Would love the see some MRIs....I dont think he was hurt at all or in trouble....But the way Joe Rogan was screaming you woulda definitely thought it was the end....

With the way Jones is portrayed and the haters out there I think if anything Jones wants to be liked...So would he say, I was never in any danger? of course not caus ethen people would say how arrogant he is...



Just look at Jones cringe and wince, then look at his arm bend the other way, then watch him fight his way through the armbar for 30 seconds or so. That's not the way a fighter reacts when he is in no danger of a locked up submission. Are you seriously implying Jones was in no trouble...If so it really is hard to take you seriously.

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I am just glad that Big John was working the main event and not someone like Moron Mazzagatti or a Kim Winslow. They probably would have stopped the fight early once Vitor locked out the armbar. I realize fighter safety is at the utmost importance, but McCarthy was right there and in big time main events I don't want to see ANY early stoppages.

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Posted by Michael_Corleone

I am just glad that Big John was working the main event and not someone like Moron Mazzagatti or a Kim Winslow. They probably would have stopped the fight early once Vitor locked out the armbar. I realize fighter safety is at the utmost importance, but McCarthy was right there and in big time main events I don't want to see ANY early stoppages.



Very true....

I don't like the whole excuses versus talking about being injured debate. Doesn't Vitor get the benefit of the doubt here ? He's not Tito.

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Posted by Michael_Corleone

I am just glad that Big John was working the main event and not someone like Moron Mazzagatti or a Kim Winslow. They probably would have stopped the fight early once Vitor locked out the armbar. I realize fighter safety is at the utmost importance, but McCarthy was right there and in big time main events I don't want to see ANY early stoppages.


Is Mazzagatti the one who tackles all the fighters he is applying a stoppage to? If so I would have loved to see an early stoppage with him tackling Jones to stop the fight via armbar...not that I wanted Jones to lose or like bad reffing but damn that would have been funny.

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Posted by Michael_Corleone

I am just glad that Big John was working the main event and not someone like Moron Mazzagatti or a Kim Winslow. They probably would have stopped the fight early once Vitor locked out the armbar. I realize fighter safety is at the utmost importance, but McCarthy was right there and in big time main events I don't want to see ANY early stoppages.


Is Mazzagatti the one who tackles all the fighters he is applying a stoppage to? If so I would have loved to see an early stoppage with him tackling Jones to stop the fight via armbar...not that I wanted Jones to lose or like bad reffing but damn that would have been funny.




I think you might be thinking of Larry Landless. Lol.

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defending kingsmasher here



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