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Magalhaes 2.0 trades sloppy for bold

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Vinny Magalhaes is a world-class grappler. That much was obvious from his run through "The Ultimate Fighter" season 8 cast, where he submitted everyone he faced leading up to the final, including his former training partner at Team Quest, Krzysztof Soszynski.

Yet, while he was super-slick horizontally, he was shackled by his own subpar stand-up. It was a glaring deficiency, and one he simply couldn’t compensate for. We saw it when he was knocked out at the hands of Ryan Bader in the "TUF" finale that season, and again when Eliot Marshall didn’t compromise an inch at UFC 97. The Marshall fight was the shoulder-shrugging moment for the UFC. It served him his walking papers because his game wasn’t whole.

By now, the bulletin is an old one that’s been passed around and snickered over for years: This is MMA, not “The Singular Thing You’re Great At.” Disciplines have to come together in concert; otherwise, what shows up isn’t the medals earned in world submission grappling tournaments. What shows up instead are your world-class deficiencies. The UFC, after all, is made up of cold-blooded exploitists. When Magalhaes left the UFC, he had an overall professional MMA record that was sub-.500. Things needed to change.

So what did he do?


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Post #1   9/11/12 7:20:37PM   

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He went to Jared's!

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I haven't seen him since he left the UFC. I saw that he has some KOs including a headkick, so he must have improved significantly, there's no way that dude was headkicking anyone when he was on TUF.

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Posted by Aether

I haven't seen him since he left the UFC. I saw that he has some KOs including a headkick, so he must have improved significantly, there's no way that dude was headkicking anyone when he was on TUF.



If I remember correctly he was losing that fight convincingly until that head kick. He's not going to wow anyone in the stand up department but he's definitely better than when we saw him on TUF. The Igor fight is a bad matchup imo but I guess we'll see.

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Posted by Chael_Sonnen

Vinny is a man amongst little children

For the record Vin, Forrest needs you 10-fold more than I do, he has more holes in his game than a Jon Jones Drunken Mistress.



Jon Jones gets into Vinny's guard in an MMA match...what happens?

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Posted by Aether

I haven't seen him since he left the UFC. I saw that he has some KOs including a headkick, so he must have improved significantly, there's no way that dude was headkicking anyone when he was on TUF.



from memory he did have sloppy stand up on tuf, but he did stun jules bruchez with a head kick before submitting him.....i think.

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Only difference between Magalhaes from UFC and Magalhaes since his release is he's more comfortable standing. He actually engages a bit more, rather than standing on the outside and being scared to get hit. That said, he hasn't gotten better at all really. His offense is still all over the place and his offense is still too kick heavy, although he throws midkicks to bait the takedowns into his guard.

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Posted by Svartorm

Only difference between Magalhaes from UFC and Magalhaes since his release is he's more comfortable standing. He actually engages a bit more, rather than standing on the outside and being scared to get hit. That said, he hasn't gotten better at all really. His offense is still all over the place and his offense is still too kick heavy, although he throws midkicks to bait the takedowns into his guard.





his standup should only be there to set up getting to the ground, look at what is happened to maia (he barely uses the ground now because he started developing a striking game), no one at lhw can hang with his BJJ so why try to stand when guys will fear your ground game. i understand you need to be well rounded but when you have such a clear adv over most guys why try to beat around the bush

Post #10   9/12/12 1:52:22PM