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Who would you pick and why?
- Inspired by Tito's recent "Me in my Prime could have beaten anybody ever" quote.
Last edited 7/5/12 9:50PM by pookie
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Post #1 7/5/12 9:50:17PM
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I like the match up. What organization does this take place in? Cage or ring? Japan or USA?
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Post #2 7/5/12 10:16:18PM
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Tito is way to strong for Saku. But then again Saku has took on large opponents before,Randleman, Rampage and won. In the cage Tito would pin him up against the fence and elbow him bad. Id go with Tito, but I wouldnt bet on that fight.
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Post #3 7/5/12 10:18:57PM
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Remember Paul Herrera
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A giant caged square, in the middle of the samoan islands, on top of an active volcano.
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Post #4 7/5/12 10:19:06PM
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Remember Paul Herrera
Career record: 1025-542
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I think Saku's striking becomes a pretty big factor in this fight. I feel his range is superior, and in Tito's prime, his striking was worse than it is right now.
On the ground, Sakuraba's grappling/transitions/reversals were all very, very nice. I can see how that could become a huge factor in nullifying Ortiz's GnP, as the more you open up offensively, the less positional control you maintain.
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Post #5 7/5/12 10:24:44PM
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pmoney
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Great poll/question Pookie! UFC rules, I pick Ortiz. Pride rules, I take Saku. Square-cage-on-top-of-an-active-volcano-in-the-pacific ocean rules.... Wanderlei beats them both 
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Post #6 7/5/12 10:38:57PM
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Remember Paul Herrera
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Posted by pmoney
Great poll/question Pookie! UFC rules, I pick Ortiz. Pride rules, I take Saku. Square-cage-on-top-of-an-active-volcano-in-the-pacific ocean rules.... Wanderlei beats them both
And Shamrock doesnt last a minute against either.
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Post #7 7/5/12 10:40:05PM
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Posted by Pookie
A giant caged square, in the middle of the samoan islands, on top of an active volcano.
Now we're talking. I'd have to agree with Shawn. I think Tito had such a strong base, that Saku would not be able to lock anything up. Although, it only seemed like Sakuraba had problems with heavy hitters, which Tito was/is not. If it were a fifteen minute fight, I'd go with Tito. I think he'd land some nice gnp once the fight hit the floor. If it were longer, I'd favor Sakuraba. I just envision Tito shooting in sloppily after tiring, and Sakuraba locking something up.
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What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in the playground is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no props, and may the mods have mercy on your soul.
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Post #8 7/5/12 10:48:56PM
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pmoney
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Posted by Pookie
Posted by pmoney
Great poll/question Pookie! UFC rules, I pick Ortiz. Pride rules, I take Saku. Square-cage-on-top-of-an-active-volcano-in-the-pacific ocean rules.... Wanderlei beats them both
And Shamrock doesnt last a minute against either.
Damn 24 hour prop limit
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Post #9 7/5/12 10:52:52PM
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Chael_Sonnen
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Prime Ortiz and/or current Ortiz would humiliate Saku 
It would be like Big brother smashing little bro......over and over and over......
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Post #10 7/5/12 11:02:01PM
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mentalcase
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ortiz by dec or tko
prime frank shamrock bohlander and mezger (thesecond time) couldn't sub him or even threaten with a submission hold
saku better then them with subs yes but also not quite as strong, also tito beat wandy around the same time wandy first beat saku
so in 2001 id go with tito
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Post #11 7/6/12 3:42:55AM
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ghandikush
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In Pride Saku would have won hands down.
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Post #12 7/7/12 3:42:29PM
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The Playground OG
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Maybe I'm biased because behind fedor Sakuraba is my favorite fighter.
Id go with saku.
Tito was strong ill give him that but he won with his wrestling ability. That being said Sakuraba is absolutely no slouch on the ground especially in his prime.
Id say it would go to a decision and it would be one of them with a split decision
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