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UFC Quick Quote: Tito Ortiz says he could have beat Jon Jones in his prime, would be like Ali-Tyson

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Tito couldnt beat him in his prime with a terminator body. Not even T2000 lol

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I doubt Tito could have ever beat Jones. These new breed of MMA athletes like Jones coming up are cross training from day one unlike the old school MMA stars who originally came into this sport with one strong base of Martial arts. Jones, Dos santos and even Aldo are 3 fighters who can do it all. Either one of them will be very tough to beat. Tito in his prime didn't fight anyone of this calibre so its difficult to say though doubtful if Tito would ever of had a chance in beating Jones.

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You kidding? Ortiz barely beat Ken Shamrock post-prime! Tito is nothing compared to anybody close or at the "legend" status. But I want to see Bisping lose(sorry off topic)

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Posted by TKDMichael

You kidding? Ortiz barely beat Ken Shamrock post-prime! Tito is nothing compared to anybody close or at the "legend" status.
But I want to see Bisping lose(sorry off topic)



Which fight did he barely beat Shamrock?

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Posted by TKDMichael

You kidding? Ortiz barely beat Ken Shamrock post-prime! Tito is nothing compared to anybody close or at the "legend" status.
But I want to see Bisping lose(sorry off topic)



Which fight did he barely beat Shamrock?



Oh don't be a Gay Horse.

All of them.

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I agree with Bubbles.

You guys are selling Tito short.

I'm not saying I think he would win the hypothetical match up. But I wouldn't count him out at all. If I had to make odds for that fight I would put Tito at +120.

Obviously Jones is way more well rounded than Tito. Tito's stand up has been better recently than it ever was in his prime. But I think that there is something to be said about really good 1-dimensional fighters, or as Joe likes to call them "specialists."

Tito didn't need to box because he could take down almost anyone in the sport. I would give prime Tito a pretty good chance at getting Jones down. Could he keep him down? Probably not. Could he take him down enough times to win the fight? Probably not. Could he stop Jon Jones' throws? Probably not. But he could make the wrestling even enough to slow down Jon Jone's stand-up game and probably survive to a decision.

The tricky part about this conversation is that Tito had a short lived prime. He was injured early and often and he never looked the same after his first long lay-off.


I think so many of the new fans (and some of the old fans) don't give enough credit to the old guard though.

I think a prime Mark Coleman, for instance, could take down the vast majority of current day UFC HW's and smash them into bits. Coleman today would be more successful than Brock today because Coleman can actually take a punch.

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Posted by bjj1605

If I had to make odds for that fight I would put Tito at +120.

Tito didn't need to box because he could take down almost anyone in the sport . . . Could he take him down enough times to win the fight? Probably not.




You'd still have Tito at +120 even though he probably couldnt take Jones down enough times to win the fight?

Personally i'd have him around +350, with extra respect given.

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+350 sounds about right

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Posted by Shawn91111 +350 sounds about right
I give Tito +300 And as a response to your previous question: Each match. And Ken fought with a messed up knee(some leg injury)

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