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If GSP Isn’t Healthy, Martin Kampmann Ready for Condit Rematch

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The waiting game for a fighter is sometimes the toughest spot in the world to sit in, but Martin Kampmann is completely okay with that right now.

The battle tested welterweight is coming off two hard fought wars in recent months in which he submitted Thiago Alves and then knocked out Jake Ellenberger, putting him in prime position as a top contender in the welterweight division.


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Post #1   6/15/12 6:17:51AM   

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I personally think Martin is more deserving of a shot at Condit then Johnny is but thats just my opinion.

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Posted by sparky

I personally think Martin is more deserving of a shot at Condit then Johnny is but thats just my opinion.



he's definatley been on a harder road and fought more wars, on the other hand hendricks has the more impressive win streak.

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Kampmann may have gone through more wars but that does not mean he has beaten better competition. You go to war not because you are good. You to go war because you and your opponent are evenly matched.

Hendricks has beaten the former number one contender, Josh Koscheck, and the true number one contender, Jon Fitch. Those two fights alone - weigh a ton of bricks when it comes to contention and rankings.

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Posted by aussiemma


Posted by sparky

I personally think Martin is more deserving of a shot at Condit then Johnny is but thats just my opinion.



he's definatley been on a harder road and fought more wars, on the other hand hendricks has the more impressive win streak.



agreed. hendricks caught fitch early and Kos is not as relevant as he used to be. kampmann just took out IMO the #1 contender in ellenberger. i think kampmann deserves his shot, especially after all the wars and comebacks that he has done.

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Posted by KungFuMaster

You go to war not because you are good. You to go war because you and your opponent are evenly matched.



I don't know if I agree with that. A close fight is often a sign of evenly matched competitors, true. But Hendricks fights have been arguably closer than Kampmann's. Hendricks was gifted a split decision against Koscheck. And I say that as a Hendricks fan and Koscheck hater. While he did do Fitch dirty, his fight before that with Mike Pierce was another razor thin SD.

Meanwhile, Kampmann KOed Ellenberger, subbed Thiago Alves, beat Rick Story down (who Hendricks lost to), and most people I know agree he beat Shields and Sanchez. He also beat Condit who is the interim chump right now. (Sorry, I meant "champ" )

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Posted by pmoney


Posted by KungFuMaster

You go to war not because you are good. You to go war because you and your opponent are evenly matched.



I don't know if I agree with that. A close fight is often a sign of evenly matched competitors, true. But Hendricks fights have been arguably closer than Kampmann's. Hendricks was gifted a split decision against Koscheck. And I say that as a Hendricks fan and Koscheck hater. While he did do Fitch dirty, his fight before that with Mike Pierce was another razor thin SD.

Meanwhile, Kampmann KOed Ellenberger, subbed Thiago Alves, beat Rick Story down (who Hendricks lost to), and most people I know agree he beat Shields and Sanchez. He also beat Condit who is the interim chump right now. (Sorry, I meant "champ" )



what P$ said

couldnt have said it better myself

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Posted by sparky


Posted by pmoney


Posted by KungFuMaster

You go to war not because you are good. You to go war because you and your opponent are evenly matched.



I don't know if I agree with that. A close fight is often a sign of evenly matched competitors, true. But Hendricks fights have been arguably closer than Kampmann's. Hendricks was gifted a split decision against Koscheck. And I say that as a Hendricks fan and Koscheck hater. While he did do Fitch dirty, his fight before that with Mike Pierce was another razor thin SD.

Meanwhile, Kampmann KOed Ellenberger, subbed Thiago Alves, beat Rick Story down (who Hendricks lost to), and most people I know agree he beat Shields and Sanchez. He also beat Condit who is the interim chump right now. (Sorry, I meant "champ" )



what P$ said

couldnt have said it better myself

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Personally I feel they ought to just strip GSP of the title. This sh*t is getting old.

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Posted by pmoney


Posted by KungFuMaster

You go to war not because you are good. You to go war because you and your opponent are evenly matched.



I don't know if I agree with that. A close fight is often a sign of evenly matched competitors, true. But Hendricks fights have been arguably closer than Kampmann's. Hendricks was gifted a split decision against Koscheck. And I say that as a Hendricks fan and Koscheck hater. While he did do Fitch dirty, his fight before that with Mike Pierce was another razor thin SD.

Meanwhile, Kampmann KOed Ellenberger, subbed Thiago Alves, beat Rick Story down (who Hendricks lost to), and most people I know agree he beat Shields and Sanchez. He also beat Condit who is the interim chump right now. (Sorry, I meant "champ" )


Kampmann got a gift in the Alves fight, and there is no way Kampmann beat Shields in that fight.

In terms of who they beat recently, Hendricks > Kampmann.
In terms of who has the better chance at beating Condit, Kampmann > Henricks

either way, GSP beats them all

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Posted by Bubbles

Kampmann got a gift in the Alves fight, and there is no way Kampmann beat Shields in that fight.

In terms of who they beat recently, Hendricks > Kampmann.

either way, GSP beats them all



I'm going to have to disagree with all of the above.

Having the wherewithal and grappling acumen to capitalize on an opponent taking you down, reversing a dominant position and finishing them after being badly hurt is not a gift. If that's what you want to call it, it's the gift of skill that Kampmann gave himself. One can argue Thiago wins if he doesn't go for a takedown. That may be true, but that's not what happened. Thiago got finished.

As far as who has beat better competition lately, I suppose that is as relative as anything. I would argue Kampmann has done better against comparable competition, and I think Kampmann would beat Fitch, Kos and Pierce just as handily as Hendricks.

And just saying GSP> Kampmann or Hendicks.... GSP hasn't fought in a long time. Whenever he does fight again, it will have been even longer. And this is a potential career altering injury he is rehabbing. GSP did not look impressive against Shields at all in my opinion, eyepoke or not. Who knows what he will look like against a Condit, Kampmann, Hendricks, etc.

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Posted by pmoney


Posted by Bubbles

Kampmann got a gift in the Alves fight, and there is no way Kampmann beat Shields in that fight.

In terms of who they beat recently, Hendricks > Kampmann.

either way, GSP beats them all



I'm going to have to disagree with all of the above.

Having the wherewithal and grappling acumen to capitalize on an opponent taking you down, reversing a dominant position and finishing them after being badly hurt is not a gift. If that's what you want to call it, it's the gift of skill that Kampmann gave himself. One can argue Thiago wins if he doesn't go for a takedown. That may be true, but that's not what happened. Thiago got finished.

As far as who has beat better competition lately, I suppose that is as relative as anything. I would argue Kampmann has done better against comparable competition, and I think Kampmann would beat Fitch, Kos and Pierce just as handily as Hendricks.

And just saying GSP> Kampmann or Hendicks.... GSP hasn't fought in a long time. Whenever he does fight again, it will have been even longer. And this is a potential career altering injury he is rehabbing. GSP did not look impressive against Shields at all in my opinion, eyepoke or not. Who knows what he will look like against a Condit, Kampmann, Hendricks, etc.



I have to agree with P$ here.

And as far as Kampmann vs. Shields goes, I scored it for Kampmann, just like I did with the Sanchez fight. In my opinion, he should be on a 7 fight win streak over top competition.

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Post #12   6/16/12 3:18:20AM