Pick'em Leagues: THE BIG SHOW CASUAL BEST OF THE REST Single Event PvP: FANTASY POOLS Betting Leagues: THE BIG SHOW BEST OF THE REST

Frank Mir Received TUE For Testosterone Use For Junior Dos Santos Fight

Print  
  Page 1 of 2     1     2  
Posted By Message

FastKnockout

THE RUTHLESS ONE

FastKnockout Avatar
7
 
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:13,694
Career:1,937-1,077
Joined:Sep 2010
Camp: Project Mayhem
Chips:
1,730
It wasn't long ago that everyone began talking about how fans and media could breathe a sigh of relief after the Nevada State Athletic Commission e-mailed the press to say that all UFC 146 fighters' drug tests came back clean. It appeared there'd be no controversy on that front.

And then Larry Pepe tweeted this:

NSAC's Keith Kizer confirmed to me that Frank Mir met all requirements for & received TUE for TRT for UFC 146 fight against JDS.

This, of course, has led to a considerable amount of reaction.

LINK

Last edited 6/1/12 6:06PM server time by FastKnockout
Edit note/reason: n/a

Post #1   6/1/12 6:05:27PM   

george112

The Playground OG

george112 Avatar
2

 
 
 


 
 
Posts:5,392
Career:1,291-843
Joined:Jan 2007
Camp: Playground Legends
Chips:
1,063


I don't like the double standard

_______________________________________
Ron Paul 2016

Post #2   6/1/12 6:10:19PM   

Poor_Franklin

Slight Reach Advantage

Poor_Franklin Avatar
9
 
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:6,248
Career:1,658-951
Joined:Jun 2011
Camp: Project Mayhem
Chips:
1,420

Posted by george112



I don't like the double standard



_______________________________________
Never Trust A Man Who Does Not Make All Of His Picks

Post #3   6/1/12 6:18:00PM   

sparky

AV BET Record: 42-10

sparky Avatar
22
 
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:5,831
Career:2,914-1,601
Joined:Jul 2007
Camp: Team Fry Guy
Chips:
1,087

Posted by george112



I don't like the double standard



Im a Reem fan so I second that shit

Post #4   6/1/12 6:33:38PM   

machodog76

MMA Sensei

machodog76 Avatar
7
 
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:1,111
Career:2,796-1,732
Joined:Jun 2007
Camp: country KO
Chips:
228
I don't see the contoversy here, He filed the paperwork and met all requirements. Did I miss something?

Post #5   6/1/12 6:35:54PM   

grappler0000

MODular Approach

grappler0000 Avatar
25
 
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:10,202
Career:2,952-1,623
Joined:Mar 2007
Camp: The Ringers
Chips:
2,500
Ariel asked him about his opinion on TRT in an interview...it seemed strange that he passed on the question, so maybe this explains it.

_______________________________________

Post #6   6/1/12 6:47:16PM   

Manak

Belt Contender

Manak Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:958
Career:164-106
Joined:Jun 2007
Camp: UFC-PRIDE-MMA
Chips:
179
why not just make roids legal year round then as long as if they get down to 1:1 or the 6:1, which they allow for TRT, by fight time its all good..... :bang head:

getting tired of this crap, aging is apart of being an athlete get over not being in your 20s anymore. yes there is a medical purpose to TRT for older men but com'n you really think mma fighters aren't using this for a loophole.

Post #7   6/1/12 8:22:19PM   

mrsmiley

Heavyweight Champ

mrsmiley Avatar
4



 
 
 


 
 
Posts:4,304
Career:1,550-909
Joined:Apr 2007
Camp: Nutthuggers Suck
Chips:
641
This is just too damn funny. Give it a year and Jon Jones will be needing test to stay relavent.

Post #8   6/1/12 9:37:35PM   

jlock003

Standup Guy

jlock003 Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:378
Career:558-406
Joined:Sep 2007
Camp: MAYHEM MONKEYS!!!!!!
Chips:
98
His levels were 1:1 the day after the fight...as in the very next day...Overeem was 14:1...how is there a comparison? Mir went through the proper channels to use TRT and tested at a normal level...I wonder what he would've been at if he didn't do the TRT...not in a sarcastic way...does anyone know how quickly a person can come down from TRT, or how much of an increase it can cause in your T:E ratio?

Post #9   6/1/12 10:15:10PM   

jae_1833

TTTHS

jae_1833 Avatar
6





 
 
 


 
 
Posts:8,131
Career:2,763-1,756
Joined:Jul 2007
Camp: Project Mayhem
Chips:
1,063
I dont buy it as Mir is a guy who has always been clean as far as we know and as soon as TUE for TRT appears then all of a sudden he needs it too.....now I wont be supporting him either.....cheater!

Post #10   6/1/12 10:24:43PM   

Pookie

Remember Paul Herrera

Pookie Avatar
8
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:9,606
Career:1,928-1,077
Joined:Apr 2007
Camp: The Ringers
Chips:
1,787
i have no problem with a 1:1 ratio.

_______________________________________
BJ Penn beat Frankie Edgar more times than Benson Henderson beat Frankie Edgar.

Post #11   6/1/12 10:38:40PM   

Chael_Sonnen

Follow.The.Buzzards

Chael_Sonnen Avatar
6





 
 
 


 
 
Posts:5,009
Career:1,277-785
Joined:May 2010
Chips:
1,409
I'm passing out free Kleenex for all of the incessant crying going on in here......that's right Kids, free Kleenex! Come get it from Uncle ChaCha

_______________________________________
Mr. Playground
• 2010 - 2016 •

Post #12   6/1/12 10:50:53PM   

KingCmb

Standup Guy

KingCmb Avatar
1
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:473
Career:935-862
Joined:Mar 2009
Chips:
166
haters

cheating is cheating and not cheating is not cheating frank mir = not cheating get over it

Post #13   6/1/12 11:01:17PM   

Manak

Belt Contender

Manak Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:958
Career:164-106
Joined:Jun 2007
Camp: UFC-PRIDE-MMA
Chips:
179

Posted by jlock003

His levels were 1:1 the day after the fight...as in the very next day...Overeem was 14:1...how is there a comparison? Mir went through the proper channels to use TRT and tested at a normal level...I wonder what he would've been at if he didn't do the TRT...not in a sarcastic way...does anyone know how quickly a person can come down from TRT, or how much of an increase it can cause in your T:E ratio?



very true but was mir checked months before the fight?? overeem was that high months before the fight (plus he was not on TRT so he just got messed up). mir could have just as equally high months before if they were not checking in to make sure he was not abusing, like is was saying whats the point of not letting all guys use if they can get their levels to 1:1 for fight time. they get to train at a crazy high level to improve at high right rate then so come off of it before the fight.. for all we know this is the reason mir put on so much more weight.just cause he doesn't look like a super hero doesn't he wasn't using. I've seen plenty of users get huge w/o the typical body associated with roids. I think TRT is dumb for pro athletes (unless they actually have a hormone problem not just being old) but if they are gonna keep letting happen, then have the guys on it get tested once a month if not more.

Post #14   6/1/12 11:14:48PM   

jlock003

Standup Guy

jlock003 Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:378
Career:558-406
Joined:Sep 2007
Camp: MAYHEM MONKEYS!!!!!!
Chips:
98

Posted by Manak


Posted by jlock003

His levels were 1:1 the day after the fight...as in the very next day...Overeem was 14:1...how is there a comparison? Mir went through the proper channels to use TRT and tested at a normal level...I wonder what he would've been at if he didn't do the TRT...not in a sarcastic way...does anyone know how quickly a person can come down from TRT, or how much of an increase it can cause in your T:E ratio?



very true but was mir checked months before the fight?? overeem was that high months before the fight (plus he was not on TRT so he just got messed up). mir could have just as equally high months before if they were not checking in to make sure he was not abusing, like is was saying whats the point of not letting all guys use if they can get their levels to 1:1 for fight time. they get to train at a crazy high level to improve at high right rate then so come off of it before the fight.. for all we know this is the reason mir put on so much more weight.just cause he doesn't look like a super hero doesn't he wasn't using. I've seen plenty of users get huge w/o the typical body associated with roids. I think TRT is dumb for pro athletes (unless they actually have a hormone problem not just being old) but if they are gonna keep letting happen, then have the guys on it get tested once a month if not more.



I think that's a fair assessment actually. The other thing people have to realize is Overeem had an odd situation. He didn't even have a license in Nevada, but he was tested as a stipulation for his granted license for the Lesnar fight. It was a weird situation. I'm still curious how the process works as in how much it raises your levels, if it depends on dosage, how long it takes to return to normal levels etc... It could very well be that I just see 14:1 and think that sounds like a guy is just doing everything he can to get an unfair advantage where in reality anyone who undergoes the treatment (I'm pretty sure it wasn't TRT for Overeem though) could have excessively high levels. What happened with Overeem again? I know some of you guys are huge Reem fans, I know he said his doc gave him something but can't remember the details.

Last edited 6/1/12 11:52PM server time by jlock003
Edit note/reason: n/a

Post #15   6/1/12 11:51:20PM   
 
  Page 1 of 2     1     2