UFC's Dan Henderson On Jon Jones Failure To Connect With Fans |
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REBEL WITH A CAUSE
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UFC Light Heavyweight champion Jon Jones is the undisputed #1 LHW in the world according to the USA TODAY/MMA Nation Consensus Rankings. He's also the most dominant LHW UFC champ since Chuck Liddell's reign ended in 2007 and yet fans are not flocking to the 24-year-old champ to the degree his accomplishments would seem to merit.
MMA Fighting's Ariel Helwani asked Jones' next challenger, UFC, Pride and Strikeforce veteran Dan Henderson for his take on why Jones isn't clicking with fans. Henderson's reply was characteristically direct:
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Rabi 4/25/13
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Post #1 4/25/12 12:58:41AM
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REBEL WITH A CAUSE
Career record: 820-501
Season: 20-4 (#127)
Location: Milwaukie, Oregon
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1st thing i wanna say is that Dan is right. Genuine is not what i see when i see Jones.
2nd thing i wanna say is that Blonde behind Dan is Gorgeous
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Rabi 4/25/13
#2 UFC 112
#12 TUF 8 FINALE
#12 Bellator 91 / Legacy FC / CCCW Combo
#14 UFC 143
#21 Bellator 53/MFC 31
#23 Strikeforce Tate vs Rousey
#23 Bellator/OneFC/Invicta/MFW/ROC/HFC Combo
" Dream As If You'll Live Forever, Live As If You'll Die Today"- James Dean
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Post #2 4/25/12 1:01:30AM
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Career record: 963-487
Season: 20-4 (#127)
Location: New York
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I dont like or dislike Jones, but I can see why he rubs people the wrong way. Especially in the post fight press conference. Its almost as if he tries too hard.
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Post #3 4/25/12 4:18:30AM
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landstander
MMA Regular
Career record: 47-32
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: aus
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The thing I don't like about jones is the way he does those kicks at peoples knees at the begining of fights. They seem like a very dirty move that should be banned.
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Post #4 4/25/12 4:34:00AM
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mrsmiley
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 911-532
Season: 21-3 (#55)
Location: Middletown,OH
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I saw on yahoo news How they believe Jones may be the first star to "transcend" the sport.
He's probably,without a doubt the best LHW champion ever and in such a short amount of time. But their's just something about him.....I don't know how to pin point it exactly.
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Post #5 4/25/12 7:54:15AM
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Posted by landstander
The thing I don't like about jones is the way he does those kicks at peoples knees at the begining of fights. They seem like a very dirty move that should be banned.
If you're talking about the stomp kicks to the knee area, I am in complete disagreement. I see very few fighters utilizing them and they could be very useful. Anderson and Jones are the only fighters I have noticed really putting them to use. I don't see how they are dirty enough to be banned.
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Post #6 4/25/12 10:02:51AM
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postman
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 564-321
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Delmont ,Pa
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Posted by airkerma
Posted by landstander
The thing I don't like about jones is the way he does those kicks at peoples knees at the begining of fights. They seem like a very dirty move that should be banned.
If you're talking about the stomp kicks to the knee area, I am in complete disagreement. I see very few fighters utilizing them and they could be very useful. Anderson and Jones are the only fighters I have noticed really putting them to use. I don't see how they are dirty enough to be banned.
Dirty moves:
Fish Hook
Eye poke
Groin strike
Checking the Oil
Wett willy & reverse wett willy
thats the list in my book
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Post #7 4/25/12 10:33:33AM
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ghandikush
MMA Sensei
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Posted by airkerma
Posted by landstander
The thing I don't like about jones is the way he does those kicks at peoples knees at the begining of fights. They seem like a very dirty move that should be banned.
If you're talking about the stomp kicks to the knee area, I am in complete disagreement. I see very few fighters utilizing them and they could be very useful. Anderson and Jones are the only fighters I have noticed really putting them to use. I don't see how they are dirty enough to be banned.
Stomping is illegal i believe, however foot stomps are allowed? And they will fuck your knee up if you get caught off guard. Go take one and give me your medical bill.
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Post #8 4/25/12 10:44:10AM
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Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 898-590
Season: 18-6 (#327)
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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Posted by ghandikush
Posted by airkerma
Posted by landstander
The thing I don't like about jones is the way he does those kicks at peoples knees at the begining of fights. They seem like a very dirty move that should be banned.
If you're talking about the stomp kicks to the knee area, I am in complete disagreement. I see very few fighters utilizing them and they could be very useful. Anderson and Jones are the only fighters I have noticed really putting them to use. I don't see how they are dirty enough to be banned.
Stomping is illegal i believe, however foot stomps are allowed? And they will fuck your knee up if you get caught off guard. Go take one and give me your medical bill.
Why not get rid of leg kicks too? I mean if someone catches the side of the knee while a guy's leg is locked, it could cause damage too!
Guys just need to be on their toes.
And to Dan's comments... "Jon, go check on him. Go get some fans."
That is all.
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Post #9 4/25/12 11:17:33AM
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MODular Approach
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Posted by ghandikush
Posted by airkerma
Posted by landstander
The thing I don't like about jones is the way he does those kicks at peoples knees at the begining of fights. They seem like a very dirty move that should be banned.
If you're talking about the stomp kicks to the knee area, I am in complete disagreement. I see very few fighters utilizing them and they could be very useful. Anderson and Jones are the only fighters I have noticed really putting them to use. I don't see how they are dirty enough to be banned.
Stomping is illegal i believe, however foot stomps are allowed? And they will fuck your knee up if you get caught off guard. Go take one and give me your medical bill.
Stomping of a "grounded opponent" is illegal. You know what else will fuck you up if you're caught off guard? Punches to the face. Kicks to the face. Knees to the face. Obviously that's not reason enough to ban a move.
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Post #10 4/25/12 11:18:47AM
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Dberntson
Standup Guy
Career record: 684-415
Season: 10-3 (#1583)
Location: St. Paul, MN
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Posted by grappler0000
Posted by ghandikush
Posted by airkerma
Posted by landstander
The thing I don't like about jones is the way he does those kicks at peoples knees at the begining of fights. They seem like a very dirty move that should be banned.
If you're talking about the stomp kicks to the knee area, I am in complete disagreement. I see very few fighters utilizing them and they could be very useful. Anderson and Jones are the only fighters I have noticed really putting them to use. I don't see how they are dirty enough to be banned.
Stomping is illegal i believe, however foot stomps are allowed? And they will fuck your knee up if you get caught off guard. Go take one and give me your medical bill.
Stomping of a "grounded opponent" is illegal. You know what else will fuck you up if you're caught off guard? Punches to the face. Kicks to the face. Knees to the face. Obviously that's not reason enough to ban a move.
Don't forget submissions - leg locks, ankle locks, armbars etc. Just ask Big Nog how damaging they can be, but I you dont hear him saying they should be banned. It's a combat sport, which by definition is dangerous and severe bodily harm can occur to those that participate.
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Post #11 4/25/12 12:41:38PM
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bjj1605
MMA Sensei
Career record: 889-537
Season: 20-4 (#531)
Location: Chicago
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Jones is fake as fuck.
He presents one face in planned interviews when he's had time to get coached and another (much less appealing) face when its a spur of the moment thing.
He's also WAYYYYYY to cocky.
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Post #12 4/25/12 7:03:46PM
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ghandikush
MMA Sensei
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Posted by Dberntson
Posted by grappler0000
Posted by ghandikush
Posted by airkerma
Posted by landstander
The thing I don't like about jones is the way he does those kicks at peoples knees at the begining of fights. They seem like a very dirty move that should be banned.
If you're talking about the stomp kicks to the knee area, I am in complete disagreement. I see very few fighters utilizing them and they could be very useful. Anderson and Jones are the only fighters I have noticed really putting them to use. I don't see how they are dirty enough to be banned.
Stomping is illegal i believe, however foot stomps are allowed? And they will fuck your knee up if you get caught off guard. Go take one and give me your medical bill.
Stomping of a "grounded opponent" is illegal. You know what else will fuck you up if you're caught off guard? Punches to the face. Kicks to the face. Knees to the face. Obviously that's not reason enough to ban a move.
Don't forget submissions - leg locks, ankle locks, armbars etc. Just ask Big Nog how damaging they can be, but I you dont hear him saying they should be banned. It's a combat sport, which by definition is dangerous and severe bodily harm can occur to those that participate.
Youre all right, but we did ban 12-6 elbows.
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Post #13 4/26/12 5:54:19AM
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DancingDoll
In Full Cowgirl
Career record: 350-184
Season: 21-3 (#45)
Location: Canada
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I like the guy in general, although I'm not an uber-fan or anything. For the most part, I judge based on accomplishment, skillset and fight style. As much as people want to hate him, and call him a mediocre fighter, he's defended the belt multiple times and nobody can solve that puzzle. Clearly he's doing something right.
As for his personality - I find it confident, personable, he likes to joke around, and maybe occasionally he might come off as a bit cocky. But I've said before - it's their job to sell and market themselves and their abilities and when you have the belt, you've earned the right to have that kind of pride.
Any guy in his position, at his age, with his level of success and $$ would be WAY cocky! I don't blame him at all for that. Plus anytime you reach that level of hype, there's going to be haters. It's just part of the game.
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Post #14 4/26/12 8:16:58AM
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ghandikush
MMA Sensei
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Posted by DancingDoll
I like the guy in general, although I'm not an uber-fan or anything. For the most part, I judge based on accomplishment, skillset and fight style. As much as people want to hate him, and call him a mediocre fighter, he's defended the belt multiple times and nobody can solve that puzzle. Clearly he's doing something right.
As for his personality - I find it confident, personable, he likes to joke around, and maybe occasionally he might come off as a bit cocky. But I've said before - it's their job to sell and market themselves and their abilities and when you have the belt, you've earned the right to have that kind of pride.
Any guy in his position, at his age, with his level of success and $$ would be WAY cocky! I don't blame him at all for that. Plus anytime you reach that level of hype, there's going to be haters. It's just part of the game.
He's already one of the greatest of all time on resume. Im an Anderson nutthugger but Jones resume probably stacks evenly with Andersons after only a short career and title run. That being said i dislike Jones just like most people seem to here.
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Post #15 4/26/12 11:08:58AM
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