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sorry KFM, but you are wrong



That's really going to convince me.

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Posted by bjj1605

I've got to agree with Grappler.

If someone is praising one person and ignoring the other, it might be irritating....but that doesn't mean he's trashing the other person.

Take your example.

Someone praises cowcatcher and only cowcatcher. That might hurt emfleek's feelings. But does that mean you are "trashing" emfleek?

Absolutely not.



If someone praises cowcatcher and only cowcatcher, it does not necessarily mean he or she is trashing emfleek. On the other hand, it does not necessarily mean he or she is not trashing emfleek either.

This argument is pointless because you two are refusing to admit the fact that in certain circumstances, a person can be trashed even if nothing is said about him. I don't have to necessarily say anything bad about a person to offend him.

Let's make this more intimate.

If you and grappler were fighting and I am the commentator and I consistently, and excessively praise grappler throughout the fight, how would you feel? I'm not verbally trashing you but you will definitely think I am a jerk, will you not?

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Posted by KungFuMaster


Posted by bjj1605

I've got to agree with Grappler.

If someone is praising one person and ignoring the other, it might be irritating....but that doesn't mean he's trashing the other person.

Take your example.

Someone praises cowcatcher and only cowcatcher. That might hurt emfleek's feelings. But does that mean you are "trashing" emfleek?

Absolutely not.



If someone praises cowcatcher and only cowcatcher, it does not necessarily mean he or she is trashing emfleek. On the other hand, it does not necessarily mean he or she is not trashing emfleek either.

This argument is pointless because you two are refusing to admit the fact that in certain circumstances, a person can be trashed even if nothing is said about him. I don't have to necessarily say anything bad about a person to offend him.

Let's make this more intimate.

If you and grappler were fighting and I am the commentator and I consistently, and excessively praise grappler throughout the fight, how would you feel? I'm not verbally trashing you but you will definitely think I am a jerk, will you not?



Yes

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Posted by KungFuMaster


Posted by bjj1605

I've got to agree with Grappler.

If someone is praising one person and ignoring the other, it might be irritating....but that doesn't mean he's trashing the other person.

Take your example.

Someone praises cowcatcher and only cowcatcher. That might hurt emfleek's feelings. But does that mean you are "trashing" emfleek?

Absolutely not.



If someone praises cowcatcher and only cowcatcher, it does not necessarily mean he or she is trashing emfleek. On the other hand, it does not necessarily mean he or she is not trashing emfleek either.

This argument is pointless because you two are refusing to admit the fact that in certain circumstances, a person can be trashed even if nothing is said about him. I don't have to necessarily say anything bad about a person to offend him.

Let's make this more intimate.

If you and grappler were fighting and I am the commentator and I consistently, and excessively praise grappler throughout the fight, how would you feel? I'm not verbally trashing you but you will definitely think I am a jerk, will you not?



Yes



Let's make a poll to see who is the bigger jerk.

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Posted by KungFuMaster


Posted by bjj1605

I've got to agree with Grappler.

If someone is praising one person and ignoring the other, it might be irritating....but that doesn't mean he's trashing the other person.

Take your example.

Someone praises cowcatcher and only cowcatcher. That might hurt emfleek's feelings. But does that mean you are "trashing" emfleek?

Absolutely not.



If someone praises cowcatcher and only cowcatcher, it does not necessarily mean he or she is trashing emfleek. On the other hand, it does not necessarily mean he or she is not trashing emfleek either.

This argument is pointless because you two are refusing to admit the fact that in certain circumstances, a person can be trashed even if nothing is said about him. I don't have to necessarily say anything bad about a person to offend him.

Let's make this more intimate.

If you and grappler were fighting and I am the commentator and I consistently, and excessively praise grappler throughout the fight, how would you feel? I'm not verbally trashing you but you will definitely think I am a jerk, will you not?



Jerk, yes.

Trashing, no.

Its not one and the same man. You have to see that.

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Posted by bjj1605


Posted by KungFuMaster


Posted by bjj1605

I've got to agree with Grappler.

If someone is praising one person and ignoring the other, it might be irritating....but that doesn't mean he's trashing the other person.

Take your example.

Someone praises cowcatcher and only cowcatcher. That might hurt emfleek's feelings. But does that mean you are "trashing" emfleek?

Absolutely not.



If someone praises cowcatcher and only cowcatcher, it does not necessarily mean he or she is trashing emfleek. On the other hand, it does not necessarily mean he or she is not trashing emfleek either.

This argument is pointless because you two are refusing to admit the fact that in certain circumstances, a person can be trashed even if nothing is said about him. I don't have to necessarily say anything bad about a person to offend him.

Let's make this more intimate.

If you and grappler were fighting and I am the commentator and I consistently, and excessively praise grappler throughout the fight, how would you feel? I'm not verbally trashing you but you will definitely think I am a jerk, will you not?



Jerk, yes.

Trashing, no.

Its not one and the same man. You have to see that.



But would you agree there is a relationship between the two?

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Posted by bjj1605



Its not one and the same man. You have to see that.



I never said it was the same.

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Posted by KungFuMaster


But would you agree there is a relationship between the two?



Well this thread has been totally hijacked...

Might as well continue now.

"Relationship" maybe....in that trashing is something negative and ignoring a person can also be negative.

But trashing is a very specific word referring to a very specific action.

I wouldn't agree with anything like what you said in your original post.

It seems to me that you often start with outlandish-way-out-there statements and then back away from them slowly until your position has morphed into something no one could disagree with.

"Relationship" is so far removed from your original "indirect trashing" that I don't see how you can pretend you were arguing the same thing then that you are now.

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Posted by KungFuMaster


Posted by Bubbles

sorry KFM, but you are wrong



That's really going to convince me.



why should I have to reiterate what grappler and bjj have already said? they have laid out their arguments and points very soundly and I agree with them. I don't have more to add and I don't like to parrot people either.

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Posted by KungFuMaster


Posted by bjj1605



Its not one and the same man. You have to see that.



I never said it was the same.



Your original words

"When Rogan is excessively praising one fighter, what is he doing essentially? He is undermining the other fighter. It is not a direct form of trashing but it is or can be a form of indirect trashing."

When you say indirect trashing, you're still saying its trashing.

You also say "essentially." I for one believe in using words carefully.

"Essentially" means "in essence" or "at the most basic level." Its like saying "despite appearances."

Whatever, this is a boring conversation and I think everyone is sick of it.

I know you well enough not expect you to concede.

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Posted by bjj1605


Posted by KungFuMaster


But would you agree there is a relationship between the two?



Well this thread has been totally hijacked...

Might as well continue now.

"Relationship" maybe....in that trashing is something negative and ignoring a person can also be negative.

But trashing is a very specific word referring to a very specific action.

I wouldn't agree with anything like what you said in your original post.

It seems to me that you often start with outlandish-way-out-there statements and then back away from them slowly until your position has morphed into something no one could disagree with.

"Relationship" is so far removed from your original "indirect trashing" that I don't see how you can pretend you were arguing the same thing then that you are now.



I am not retracting by any means. My original post was meant to say exactly that..

Do you not think there are levels of trashing? You and grappler are defining the word 'trashing' with absolute meanings and I am trying to convince you there are forms and levels of trashing - severe all the way down to minute....and one way to do so can be done without actually verbalizing it.

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This thread got really, really good for awhile, then trailed off.

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Posted by cowcatcher

This thread got really, really good for awhile



So you are saying that all other threads got really really bad for a while?

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