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Carlos Condit vs. Nick Diaz II already a no-go, says Cesar Gracie

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Almost as soon as it seemed a reality, a rematch between Nick Diaz and Carlos Condit is not happening.

When contacted today by MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com), Diaz manager Cesar Gracie said "no" when asked if a rematch recently announced is a reality. He declined further comment.

UFC president Dana White issued a tweet late Tuesday that said Condit had accepted a rematch with Diaz and was headed to Las Vegas on Friday, presumably, to finalize a contract for the fight.

Condit manager Malki Kawa did not respond to a request for comment on the status of the bout but today confirmed the rematch via Twitter.

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Cesar's Twitter:

"We greatly appreciate our fan support. Everything will be out soon."


Any ideas on what the issue could be?

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Posted by FastKnockout

Cesar's Twitter:

"We greatly appreciate our fan support. Everything will be out soon."


Any ideas on what the issue could be?



Diaz needs more time to get his running legs under him?

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I bet it still ends up happening.

Both Gracie and Kawa know that this is going to be a big moneymaker. They're both going to do what they have to do to drum up interest and to make sure their fighters get the biggest payday they can possibly get.

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Posted by BuffaloDave


Posted by FastKnockout

Cesar's Twitter:

"We greatly appreciate our fan support. Everything will be out soon."


Any ideas on what the issue could be?



Diaz needs more time to get his running legs under him?



With all the talk about Diaz's love for marathons, I figured Diaz would've been pumped to see Condit's gameplan.



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Posted by emfleek

I bet it still ends up happening.

Both Gracie and Kawa know that this is going to be a big moneymaker. They're both going to do what they have to do to drum up interest and to make sure their fighters get the biggest payday they can possibly get.



Just as importantly, Dana White knows this might be the ONLY moneymaker for Condit with St. Pierre out. It might be different if Diaz had that belt but my guess is the UFC has doubts about Condit's power to generate pay-per-view buys, if that's the road they go with this one.

The success of welterweight title fights for the last three or four years is built around Georges St. Pierre's name alone. There was 775,000 buys for his fight against Hardy and 800,000 buys for his fight against Jake Shields. If you replaced St. Pierre with Condit's name against either of those fighters, the UFC would be looking at a third of the buys. For that, Diaz is probably the second most popular fighter in that division. The UFC needs him because Condit alone would probably pull in Edgar numbers.

The UFC brass will force this. It's a win-win-win on all sides. Buys, drum up momentum for Condit if he fights GSP, luck out and get the fight more people want to see between Diaz and GSP. Whatever happens, they win.

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Posted by FastKnockout

Cesar's Twitter:

"We greatly appreciate our fan support. Everything will be out soon."


Any ideas on what the issue could be?



Here's an idea, Diaz was serious about quitting.

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Posted by BlueSkiesBurn


Posted by FastKnockout

Cesar's Twitter:

"We greatly appreciate our fan support. Everything will be out soon."


Any ideas on what the issue could be?



Here's an idea, Diaz was serious about quitting.



Dirty Piss?

Post #8   2/8/12 3:54:22PM   

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Posted by postman


Posted by BlueSkiesBurn


Posted by FastKnockout

Cesar's Twitter:

"We greatly appreciate our fan support. Everything will be out soon."


Any ideas on what the issue could be?



Here's an idea, Diaz was serious about quitting.



Dirty Piss?



In all seriousness, have the UFC 143 test results come back?

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Havent seen them yet
couldnt find them.

but I doubt thats it.

maybe he got a huge boxing offer.

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Posted by postman


Posted by BlueSkiesBurn

Here's an idea, Diaz was serious about quitting.



Dirty Piss?



Maybe if he meant it, he was smoking in the middle of his post-fight piss test.


Posted by BeeR

maybe he got a huge boxing offer.



His UFC contract would put him in legal hot water for this.

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Back to Strikeforce?
It was a duel contract.

and the whole contract was based on him fighting GSP according to Cesar.
which isnt going to happen, especially now that the rematch is off.

so maybe they have a way out

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This is obviously a ploy to get more money out of the ufc. I don't see how and why Diaz and his camp would not take the fight. Furthermore, I serious doubt Diaz sustained any major injury from the last fight.

It's all about money.

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Posted by KungFuMaster

This is obviously a ploy to get more money out of the ufc. I don't see how and why Diaz and his camp would not take the fight. Furthermore, I serious doubt Diaz sustained any major injury from the last fight.



He didn't. He even avoided a suspension by the AC and, according to the guy that broke the story (FrontRowBrian), it's not an injury issue.

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Posted by emfleek

I bet it still ends up happening.

Both Gracie and Kawa know that this is going to be a big moneymaker. They're both going to do what they have to do to drum up interest and to make sure their fighters get the biggest payday they can possibly get.



I agree. I'll bet this 'on-again, off-again' drama is mostly about negotiating a sweet payout to make this fight happen. Cha-ching!

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