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Heres the conservative system I use (and came up with) to gain several advantages in Blackjack. Before you start trying to understand how to count cards though it's essential that you master the basic strategy below, because all the card counting in the world isn't going to save you if you don't know when to hit or stay. There are several different variants for basic strategy but theyre all very similar.

BASIC STRATEGY (H=HIT,S=STAY,D=DBLDWN,X=SPLIT):

DEALER 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 A
YOU
4-8 H H H H H H H H H H
9 H D D D D H H H H H
10 D D D D D D D D H H
11 D D D D D D D D D D
12 H H S S S H H H H H
13-16 S S S S S H H H H H
17-20 S S S S S S S S S S

A2-A3 H H H D D H H H H H
A4-A5 H H D D D H H H H H
A6 H D D D D H H H H H
A7 S D D D D S S H H H
A8-A9 S S S S S S S S S S

22-33 X X X X X X - - - -
44 - - - X X - - - - -
55 - - - - - - - - - -
66 X X X X X - - - - -
77 X X X X X X - - - -
88 X X X X X X X X X X
99 X X X X X - X X - -
10-10 - - - - - - - - - -
AA X X X X X X X X X X


Now on the the card counting. I know most of you have probably seen a movie or show that explains a system for counting cards, and it seems easy... but trust me it's not. The system I came up with is incredinly simple, and keeping exact count isn't completely essential, you just need to know around where you are. Basically the thing you need to know to give you advantages is how many tens and aces are going to be coming out, so what I do is count them, and only them. Most shoes have 6 or 8 decks, the chart below is suited for 6. The way to do this is simply to count tens and aces, and keep a general count in your head, at the same time look at the discard pile and estimate how many cards are discarded, the width of your thumb is very close in size to a 52 card deck, so use that in your estimation. The idea is that there is 20 tens/aces in a neutral deck, so if there is less when you look at the discard pile, you know theyre gonna be coming out, and if theres more you know theyre will be less coming out, pretty basic. When there are more face cards coming you can up your bets, safely insure, and alter your basic strategy knowing that a ten or ace will help or hurt you in whatever case. The chart below show the % of a ten or ace to come out, the top part represents "decks of face cards behind" (remember that there are 20 per deck, so if youre 2 decks in and youve counted 20 face cards, youre one behind) vs the amount of decks discarded.

CARD COUNTING (FACE CARDS VS DISCARDED DECKS):

FACE 0.5 1 1.5 2 2.5
DECK

0.5 41% 44% 46% 49% 51%
1 41% 44% 47% 50% 52%
1.5 41% 44% 47% 50% 53%
2 42% 45% 48% 51% 54%
2.5 42% 45% 49% 52% 56%
3 42% 46% 50% 54% 58%
3.5 43% 47% 51% 55% 60%
4 43% 48% 53% 58% 63%
4.5 44% 49% 55% 60% 66%
5 45% 51% 58% 64% 71%
5.5 46% 54% 62% 69% 77%

Post #1   5/19/07 1:48:08PM   

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Sorry about the charts being all screwy, it's hard to make tables in here lol... also it's important to note that I do half doubledowns most of the time, remember this is a conservative system... I usually walk in with a hundred and walk out with $150... can't get greedy lol

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I prefer Texas Hold'em a game of mostly skill to a game of mostly luck like Blackjack

I once won $3,000 at Pacific Poker(Online Poker) with only $1 SnG(9 players) game....from there i won a $7 seat at an other satillite(like 500 players) and at that table i got top 10 to the $200+$15 Main event where i placed 9th due to a bad beat...(out of 727 players)

I had AK suited with the 2nd shortest stack so i pushed all in and i got called by AQ off...

Flop came.... 10 10 J....7(I really dont remember)....and the river he hit his money card.....K for the straight

so i went out 9th steaming,but at the same time happy that i won 3k...but what really sucks is that 1st place was $44,000

If my hand held up im sure i would of gotten at least 4th place

here is a picture of my winnings...next to my PSP with my babe Rachelle Leah on it ...and i have been making a killing in the last 6 months...$100 here..$200 there..entering $20 tourneys

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I used to play this a lot and based my strategy on that game and it helped me quite a bit.

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Posted by Trapt1nw0nder

I prefer Texas Hold'em a game of mostly skill to a game of mostly luck like Blackjack

I once won $3,000 at Pacific Poker(Online Poker) with only $1 SnG(9 players) game....from there i won a $7 seat at an other satillite(like 500 players) and at that table i got top 10 to the $200+$15 Main event where i placed 9th due to a bad beat...(out of 727 players)

I had AK suited with the 2nd shortest stack so i pushed all in and i got called by AQ off...

Flop came.... 10 10 J....7(I really dont remember)....and the river he hit his money card.....K for the straight

so i went out 9th steaming,but at the same time happy that i won 3k...but what really sucks is that 1st place was $44,000

If my hand held up im sure i would of gotten at least 4th place

here is a picture of my winnings...next to my PSP with my babe Rachelle Leah on it ...and i have been making a killing in the last 6 months...$100 here..$200 there..entering $20 tourneys

nothing personal but I just find it incredibly annoying when people bring up hold'em stories, especially when I'm talking about blackjack... I've played hold'em for years too (and stud), but yet it seems like every player seems to think hes some type of pro... and the fact that you called blackjack a game of "luck" as opposed to a poker game really shows youre ignorance!

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Posted by Trapt1nw0nder

I prefer Texas Hold'em a game of mostly skill to a game of mostly luck like Blackjack

I once won $3,000 at Pacific Poker(Online Poker) with only $1 SnG(9 players) game....from there i won a $7 seat at an other satillite(like 500 players) and at that table i got top 10 to the $200+$15 Main event where i placed 9th due to a bad beat...(out of 727 players)

I had AK suited with the 2nd shortest stack so i pushed all in and i got called by AQ off...

Flop came.... 10 10 J....7(I really dont remember)....and the river he hit his money card.....K for the straight

so i went out 9th steaming,but at the same time happy that i won 3k...but what really sucks is that 1st place was $44,000

If my hand held up im sure i would of gotten at least 4th place

here is a picture of my winnings...next to my PSP with my babe Rachelle Leah on it ...and i have been making a killing in the last 6 months...$100 here..$200 there..entering $20 tourneys

nothing personal but youre in the wrong thread.. i played heavt handed poker for years, but honestly I coy;d care less for your braggibg... and you calling bj a luck game shows how ignorant you are.....



Call it bragging if you want,but i am proud of what i had done,and it will maybe motivate people to try to learn the game and see how fun it is.... i would of never brought it up if you didnt make a gambling thread....shit,at least i posted in your damn thread as i saw a tumbleweed rolling by and decided to show your thread some love after i saw that nobody had posted in it after you had already bumped it up with a second post of your own.....

and i play alot of cards...Blackjack,7card stud,Hold'em,Razz,Omaha and you cant tell me Blackjack doesnt require the most luck...you cant bluff people out in Bj for starters...you MUST have the best hand or you will lose.....and for the record i said "BlackJack is mostly luck"..not "Blackjack is a luck game"

Hasnt your momma ever told ya "if you aint got anything good to say,dont say it at all"?













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Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be a dick, it's just that anytime I talk about gambling there is always someone who comes out and says how good of a hold'em player he is... and in most cases they don't even know how to play another type of poker... it just seems like such a fad to me and it bugs me that everyone thinks theyre gods on the felt when it comes to hold'em...

Any card game requires major luck, but IMHO poker (any variant) is far worse than blackjack when it comes down to luck, especially if you're playing bj with a system...

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you can learn this at any statistics class

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Posted by richieb19

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be a dick, it's just that anytime I talk about gambling there is always someone who comes out and says how good of a hold'em player he is... and in most cases they don't even know how to play another type of poker... it just seems like such a fad to me and it bugs me that everyone thinks theyre gods on the felt when it comes to hold'em...

Any card game requires major luck, but IMHO poker (any variant) is far worse than blackjack when it comes down to luck, especially if you're playing bj with a system...



Absolutely agree, and thats why I can't stand playing Hold'em with people. Everyone and their dads play now and everyone thinks they're masters of the game. I learned to play by watching Poker After Dark while I had a stomach virus and I've lost three games in the last six months. I admit fully that I'm not good at Hold'em, so that shows where all these big shots truely are.

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I am a good hold'em player...in order to be a good hold'em player,and be successful with it,you have to play with the best..and not with rookies..its much harder to play poker against rookies than it is to play with people that are knowleged on the sport.(yes..it is a sport)

If you're gonna play poker online dont even think about playing tournaments under $5 buy in because all the rookies,soccer moms,mini van driving dads,grandma's and those kind of people are the ones playing on those tables just to have a good time and play....if you really wanna be successful you gotta play $20 buy-ins or more tables where most people take the game seriously,and dont play like idiots.

Try telling a professional Poker player that IYO poker is more luck than BJ and he will laugh in your face.

and i do play all types of poker and i am pretty good at all of them,but the money is at the Hold'em tourneys no doubt...i believe knowing how to play every type of poker will help you understand hold'em more.

whatever you think is required of more luck....Hold'em is the best game to make money....try making 3k with $1 playing Blackjack

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I think you're just not getting it, and you're feeding into the exact sterotype me and Svartom where just mentioning... Why are you udner the impression that I haven't played poker before, or that I'm some sort of rookie? It's because it's the standard "I'm a good poker player" attitude at work... Personally I've won plenty of money playing poker, online and in casinos, I know my odds and strategies to a tee, just as I do on any gambling game I ever play, I won't play unless I've mastered it completely... I like poker actually, it's a great game with alot of chances to win (and lose) money, but like I said it really bugs me how everyone that became a player when it became popular somehow thinks he knows more than me or is some type of expert... and again I'm not trying to be a dick to you in any way...

As far as the luck debate goes, theoretically luck doesnt exist, there are chances and probabilities, and like I mentioned, when playing with a strong system you can know what your chances are... now that doesnt mean I still can't get screwed on my hand even with a good shoe, but the same goes for poker and lets say getting screwed on the river, even if you have a better hand... I understand that theres the whole bluff scenario that provides you with certain advantages when playing against weaker players, but the cards are random none the less, and with blackjack systems you can be succesful because using basic strategy alone gives you somewhere around 52% chances of winning a hand on a neutral shoe... really the only serious game I know of that doest involve any "luck" is chess, another favorite of mine...

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Posted by richieb19

I think you're just not getting it, and you're feeding into the exact sterotype me and Svartom where just mentioning... Why are you udner the impression that I haven't played poker before, or that I'm some sort of rookie? It's because it's the standard "I'm a good poker player" attitude at work... Personally I've won plenty of money playing poker, online and in casinos, I know my odds and strategies to a tee, just as I do on any gambling game I ever play, I won't play unless I've mastered it completely... I like poker actually, it's a great game with alot of chances to win (and lose) money, but like I said it really bugs me how everyone that became a player when it became popular somehow thinks he knows more than me or is some type of expert... and again I'm not trying to be a dick to you in any way...

As far as the luck debate goes, theoretically luck doesnt exist, there are chances and probabilities, and like I mentioned, when playing with a strong system you can know what your chances are... now that doesnt mean I still can't get screwed on my hand even with a good shoe, but the same goes for poker and lets say getting screwed on the river, even if you have a better hand... I understand that theres the whole bluff scenario that provides you with certain advantages when playing against weaker players, but the cards are random none the less, and with blackjack systems you can be succesful because using basic strategy alone gives you somewhere around 52% chances of winning a hand on a neutral shoe... really the only serious game I know of that doest involve any "luck" is chess, another favorite of mine...



im not calling you a rookie at all,and im one of those who hate all those poker noobs that just got into the game and think they are masters of the game...i never said i was a master of the sport,i said "i am good at hold'em"..there is a difference...i got into playing hold'em about 3 years ago when i turned 18...it WAS after the Moneymaker revolution,but at that time i didnt even know who the hell Moneymaker was nor did i know that poker was blowing up because of this.....to tell you the truth,the only reason i started playing poker was because i rented this laptop from this place called "Rent A Center" while my original Laptop was being repaired,and this laptop had a this Party Poker software installed in it and i started playing free games with playmoney,and i fell in love with the game.

"I won't play unless I've mastered it completely"

even veterans of the game like Johnny Chan,and Doyal Brunson say that they are still learning the game,so there is no way you can master it...

Of course nobody is a Master of the game when it still involves a little luck,but for my part i know it is mostly skill because the proof is in the pudding..and that 6K that i showed off is what i have made in the last 8 months that i have been saving...the only reason i have this is because i dont have bills to pay since i still live with my parents..6k in 8 months isnt much anyways..the only reason i have made this much is because i am smart,and i know my limits,and odds...you'll never see me playing on a $100 tourney unless i won that seat with less money...like you said earlier..its not good to be greedy...just nibble away....plus i play ALOT of poker online...thats why im always online and here in the forums..

i never learned how to play chess...i will school you in checkers though

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Wow, you two bank off these games.

Wanna help me pay off a few bills? Haha.

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i'll whip all of ya on some poker

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i'll whip all of ya on some poker

Oh man does this thread make me mad sometimes... lol

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