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timothyera
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 222-178
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Maryland
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The dictionary defines submission as the acknowledgement of the legitimacy of the power of one's superior or superiors. Anyone else think that when a fighter refuses to tap out or give up the result should be considered a TKO? What I mean is they did not "submit" to their opponent, they did not give up. They did not "acknowledge" that the other fighter is better, even though that is the case. I know a TKO is a technical "knock out", but I was watching 300 the other day and when King Leonidas says "submission, now thats a bit of a problem", it got me thinking. I would not want the record to show that I submitted to another person when I only passed out. I know this will never change but does anyone else feel the same way?
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Post #1 12/10/11 3:35:49PM
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MODular Approach
Career record: 1012-567
Season: 19-5 (#178)
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If it's recorded properly, it should say technical submission.
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Post #2 12/10/11 3:41:49PM
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timothyera
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 222-178
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Maryland
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Yeah your right that makes sense. Guess that slipped my mind. I remember Tom Lawlor not tapping out in his last fight and it does say technical submission on his record at sherdog. Thanks!
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Post #3 12/10/11 4:55:06PM
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Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 976-534
Season: 19-5 (#188)
Location: Coon Rapids, Minnesota
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Perfect topic for tonights bone breaking result. 
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Billy Madison-
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in the playground is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no props, and may the mods have mercy on your soul.
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Post #4 12/10/11 11:42:54PM
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Geoffo
Standup Guy
Career record: 139-92
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted by timothyera
The dictionary defines submission as the acknowledgement of the legitimacy of the power of one's superior or superiors. Anyone else think that when a fighter refuses to tap out or give up the result should be considered a TKO? What I mean is they did not "submit" to their opponent, they did not give up. They did not "acknowledge" that the other fighter is better, even though that is the case. I know a TKO is a technical "knock out", but I was watching 300 the other day and when King Leonidas says "submission, now thats a bit of a problem", it got me thinking. I would not want the record to show that I submitted to another person when I only passed out. I know this will never change but does anyone else feel the same way?
If someone cares about whats written on paper enough to be bothered by it, chances are the fighter isn't focused or a good fighter anyways.
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Post #5 12/11/11 12:08:25AM
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bjj1605
MMA Sensei
Career record: 889-537
Season: 20-4 (#531)
Location: Chicago
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Technically you might have a point.
But in MMA, a "submission" is a particular hold. Its simply better for recording keeping purposes because it shows if it was a "submission HOLD" or if it was due to strikes. Regardless of whether or not they tap.
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Post #6 12/11/11 2:33:40AM
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poppa_gump
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 563-320
Season: 19-5 (#379)
Location: Prince George B.C. Canada
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I fully agree that it should be known as a (tech) submission so that when guys like Joe Rogan mention their records that it is know as that and not a TKO.
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Post #7 12/12/11 4:37:14PM
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