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What's Missing From UFC's Response to Miguel Torres, Rashad Evans? Consistency.

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Here's a question that became very important, yet difficult to answer this week: If you're a UFC fighter living in this wild world of social media, how do you know when you've crossed the line between edgy and irredeemably offensive? Better yet, how do you know when crossing that line will get you chewed out by your boss, and how do you know when you've committed an offense so egregious that it's cause for termination?

Answer: You don't. Not until it's too late. Not until your fate is already sealed. And that, whether you think of yourself as a shockingly clever Twitter comedian or a press conference trash-talk specialist, is a problem.

It's a problem for fighters, and it's a problem for the UFC. It's also a problem that has a solution, if the UFC cares enough about fairness and clarity to implement it.

As you probably know by now, two UFC fighters made the issue of sexual assault into fodder for their own attempts at entertainment this week, but with very different repercussions.

At a UFC on FOX press conference earlier this week, light heavyweight Rashad Evans referenced the Penn State sex abuse scandal when trying to zing former Nittany Lions wrestler Phil Davis. Meanwhile on Twitter, bantamweight Miguel Torres joked about "rape vans," suggesting that if they were renamed "surprise vans," maybe people would be more likely to ride in them.

Go out on the street and present these two cases to strangers who know nothing about the world of the UFC. See if they can guess which guy got fired, and which got off with just a stern talking to. I'll bet you a six-pack of your finest domestic ale that more people guess wrong than right.

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Just got done reading this and was about to post it. It's like he's reading my mind or something.

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Posted by grappler0000

Just got done reading this and was about to post it. It's like he's reading my mind or something.



Same. A little consistency would be nice. I especially like the point about Lesnar and what would have happened had he been the one to post what Torres did.

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Wonder how Frank Mir is handling this

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This is the UFC's/Dana's problem. All major mainstream sports have a uniform code of standards for all of their athletes, regardless of popularity. The UFC needs a consistent disciplinary code for all regarding behavior and illegal drugs. Whether its fines, suspensions or firings, all fighters should be treated the same way. Just look at all the stuff Rampage, Mir, Sonnen, etc. say on a regular basis. If Torres was tearing through opponents, was a PPV draw or still the champ, he would have gotten a slap on the wrist.

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I think that this being the third time Dana dealt with this also played a role in him going straight to firing. Maybe not as much that Torres doesn't have star power but maybe more of a "for fucks sake, why the fuck would you say this after I've had to flip my lid twice!??" type reaction resulted in the firing.

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Posted by airkerma

I think that this being the third time Dana dealt with this also played a role in him going straight to firing. Maybe not as much that Torres doesn't have star power but maybe more of a "for fucks sake, why the fuck would you say this after I've had to flip my lid twice!??" type reaction resulted in the firing.



Let's assume that's the case and things would've happened in the following order...

1st - Torres Tweets.

2nd - Rashad makes Penn State reference.

3rd - Forrest Tweets.

Do you think Forrest would've received the same treatment? You and I both know that he wouldn't have.

This boils down to White needing/wanting to make an example out of someone. Why not Torres; a $60k per fight undercard fighter with a limited fanbase?

He'll be back and Dana will give one of his famous, "Look. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance" speeches.

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as a rape victim myself i found what Rashad, and Forrest said more offensive then what MIguel said.

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I think that Torres will be back in the UFC when Dana needs a new opponent for Dominick Cruz.

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Does anyone not realize Torres' first amendment right has been violated?

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Posted by KungFuMaster

Does anyone not realize Torres' first amendment right has been violated?




I'm sorry he is arrested right now?

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I like the UFC and the fights it puts on but I don't like the direction in which it is going. You have an organization which will not let its employees under contract participate in other sports. Now you have incidences where the UFC is trying to regulate what its employees can and cannot say. What is next for UFC fighters? I reckon the UFC will try to regulate their training.

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Posted by KungFuMaster

Does anyone not realize Torres' first amendment right has been violated?




I'm sorry he is arrested right now?



I don't get it.

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Dana's / UFC's handling of the situation has been ridiculous at best. We all know who's comments were more offensive.

Miguel is the least popular of the three. And Zuffa wanted to appear like they were doing something about the situation. Thats what it all boils down to.

I've never seen the show Miguel was referring to, but it seemed to me he was just making a joke about "rape-vans", not rape itself. Rashad and Forrest were not talking about vans..

It's not right. Miguel got screwed. Plenty of good fights for him in Bellator, or Dream though.

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Posted by KungFuMaster

Does anyone not realize Torres' first amendment right has been violated?




I'm sorry he is arrested right now?



I don't get it.



He's mentioned being arrested because you mentioned the first amendment.

The first amendment covers you against government action, not the actions of businesses or individuals. People are entitled to not like what you say and react accordingly.

Actually, as a fun fact, the first amendment as originally written in the constitution protected you only from FEDERAL prosecution, not from the states.

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