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WASHINGTON, D.C. – It was a dominant performance for Anthony Johnson – one that moves him a big step toward a potential title fight with welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre.

But it also came with a bit of controversy.

However, following Johnson's first-round destruction of Charlie Brenneman at Saturday's UFC on Versus 6 event, both Johnson and UFC president Dana White downplayed the supposedly controversial stoppage.

Johnson (10-3 MMA, 7-3 UFC) and Brenneman (14-3 MMA, 3-2 UFC) met in a main-card bout at Washington, D.C.'s Verizon Center. The Versus-televised bout proved a lopsided affair; Johnson stuffed an early takedown and then punished a kneeling Brenneman with punches and knees. By the time Brenneman got back to his feet, he was wobbly, and he grabbed the fence to keep his balance. But that's also when Johnson blasted him with a shin to the face.

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Post #1   10/2/11 6:34:47AM   

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I wouldn't mind one more punch thrown in for good measure by Rumble....but.....it was a good stoppage.

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I was upset at first, because I knew Johnson would be hit with negative feedback, and some fans might use it as an excuse to brush off his win. But, after watching the replay again, I feel that the stoppage was was needed. Brenneman was in trouble a good 15-20 seconds due to Rumble rocking him, and when he was getting up he had to grab the cage and use it for support, which also was the reason he wasn't able to block the kick. Brenneman might have recovered quickly, but the way he fell and how his body went limp for a second after the kick landed flush cause me to believe that he was out, if only for a quick second.

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If the fight weren't stopped, Rumble wound have Hendo/Bispinged him and won the fight anywats. Brenneman's Rocky story was over the moment this fight was scheduled. Rumble was dominating.

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The stoppage may have seemed early according to video footages but if other referees saw the fight as it was happening live, I have no doubt many of them would have done the same.

Brenneman was in limbo before the kick. He was in la-la land.

I think Mario did an excellent job in protecting the fighter.

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It's unintelligently defending yourself isn't it? Then why take a headkick to the face...

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He needs a title shot...

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Good stoppage? Anyone watch Kongo/Barry? He's a professional fighter, he wasn't out, let him continue the fight. Maybe he was just one or two punches from losing, or maybe not....now we'll never know

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Posted by jtgribble

Good stoppage? Anyone watch Kongo/Barry? He's a professional fighter, he wasn't out, let him continue the fight. Maybe he was just one or two punches from losing, or maybe not....now we'll never know



I'm with you. It was probably about to be over but how many times have we seen a fight turn around when it seemed like it was over?

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Let fighters finish fights, let fighters get finished. Why does Big Nog get extra time to recover when fights get stoped all the time from a brutal knockdown? why do title fights go that extra bit?

It's stupid I think to have different standards based on a fights lace on a card. Let Anthony Johnson drop GSP like that and see if some ref has the balls to end it then.

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it was definitely not a good stoppage. The guy was propping himself up and reacted within a second of the fight being called by shrugging and getting straight back up to his feet to complain.

Maybe he would've lost anyway, but it doesn't really matter, the stoppage was early.

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it would have been a bad stoppage if the fight was going any other way than what it was. i thought it was obvious that charlie was in for a beating. it would have gotten worse from there. rumble is an absolute animal at WW

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Posted by ghandikush

Let Anthony Johnson drop GSP like that and see if some ref has the balls to end it then.

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it was an early stoppage. remember the first round of sanchez v guida? or even edgar v maynard 2? anthony johnson may very well have continued to dominate, or brenneman might have recovered and put up a good fight. we'll never know. at the same time refs need to err on the side of caution so i won't fault the decision to stop it. bad call or not the ref did the right thing.

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Posted by ghandikush

Let fighters finish fights, let fighters get finished. Why does Big Nog get extra time to recover when fights get stoped all the time from a brutal knockdown? why do title fights go that extra bit?

It's stupid I think to have different standards based on a fights lace on a card. Let Anthony Johnson drop GSP like that and see if some ref has the balls to end it then.



Addressing the Different standards bit.

When the paramount concern is fighter safety, some subjectivity is required.
Knowing that Forrest Griffin's punches(for example) carry less impact than say Chuck Liddell's, if both fighters are in the same situation that Rumble was in, It would serve the Referee's number one interest to stop Chuck from GnP'ing earlier than he would Griffin.

The power a fighter has is indicative of how much damage they can do quickly to a defenseless opponent. And when it comes to split-second decision making, The perception of a fighters power is important to maintaining a referee's #1 interest, Fighter safety.

Thus, fighters with huge power are going to get stoppages that are slightly early on occasion based on their reputation alone. And honestly, it's a good thing that this happens if you want the ref's to be Proficient at their jobs.

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