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Shinya Aoki vs. Eddie Alvarez Verbally Agreed For Bellator Bout

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Posted by Theoutlaw08

I think Alvarez wins via UD. But I would like to see these guys in the UFC soon, mixing it up with the top competition.

I've always thought that if Dana truly feels he has the best fighters under the UFC banner, why not cross promote with other organizations champions to prove it

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Post #16   8/24/11 5:19:29PM   

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Ima take Shinya again. Aoki doesn't need a takedown to submit him.

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Post #17   8/24/11 5:26:51PM   

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I think Alvarez just might crush him this time.

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YES!! YES!! YES!! YES!! YES!! YES!! YES!! YES!! YES!! YES!!................sorry I was doing a Sanchez YES cartwheel. I love this fight and hope to **** that it actually happens!!!

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One could make the argument that Alvarez has evolved enough to beat any lightweight but I cant get over how effortless Aoki can grap a leg, arm or choke on top of that it worked on the very first submission attempt against Alvarez. I dont believe the last fight was a fluke at all but my only concern is Aoki's uncomfortability with the cage. Melendez is damn near a black belt workin at Cesar Gracie's and I dont believe Alvarez is on the same level as those two.

I'm leaning toward Aoki in the rematch because I think he will actually train in a cage and plan smart for this one. Plus he has to be confident knowing he can tap out a very talented lightweight like Alvarez, the pressure is on Alvarez to defend the belt and avenge himself. Obviously could go either way but I think he'll be fighting off submission attempts before he gets caught in some triangle/gogoplata.

Post #20   8/24/11 7:56:47PM   

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If Eddie doesn't catch him with some punches first Aoki will win by submission. I think both fighters need to eventually land in the UFC though where they can face some real competition. Some people think Aoki's ground game is so spectacular. Personally I think his ground game looks a lot better than it really is because he hasn't fought in the UFC. I think both fighters more than likely would get whooped hardcore against the UFC talent.

Post #21   8/24/11 8:17:38PM   

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I'll take Eddie the second time around.

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Eddie still has to face Michael Chandler too.

Post #23   8/24/11 9:48:26PM   

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I think Alvarez is possibly the most overrated fighter on the planet. He's not a bad fighter, don't get me wrong, but sites like Sherdog ranking him as #5 at lightweight IMO is ridiculous. You don't get ranked in the top 10 for beating Pat Curran and Roger Huerta no matter how dominating your performance was.

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I agree totally, while I personally do not have him in my top ten it's mainly due to the competition he has faced....now Shinya is in my top ten but it's only due to the competition he has faced....he is my #10. I think this fight is very competitve but due to Shinya's performance against Melendez and the fact that lately his cometition hasnt been much better I am left torn on the pick. Probably because I like Eddie more but I fear Aoki more. I don't think it will go to decision though at all.

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Aoki via sub again or a decision

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Aoki should still have his number.

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Posted by Budgellism

Eddie won't make the same mistake twice. Alvarez by dominating UD.




Agree BJJ is a wash if Alvarez can sprawl easy win...I dont think Aoki has good takedowns...

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Posted by Budgellism

Eddie won't make the same mistake twice. Alvarez by dominating UD.




Agree BJJ is a wash if Alvarez can sprawl easy win...I dont think Aoki has good takedowns...



He doesn't have good TD's, but he sticks like herpes once he does grab hold of someone and can transition to the back standing as well as anyone in MMA. I like Eddie to win this too, but Aoki's a different breed of JJ fighter and is always a threat. Except in the kickboxing round...

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