UFC 133 results: After finishing Tito Ortiz, Rashad Evans wants to 'teach Jon Jones a lesson' |
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pmoney
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Rashad Evans finished Tito Ortiz -- once and for all -- in the main event last night (Aug. 6) of UFC 133 at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and earned himself a light heavyweight title shot in the process.
And a ticket to Denver, Colorado, to challenge the winner of Jon Jones vs. Quinton Jackson at UFC 135 on Sept. 24.
Of course, while a win for Ortiz last night would have undoubtedly been good for business as the Huntington Beach hype train would have only built more and more steam, UFC President Dana White is surely seeing nothing but dollar signs at the possible 205-pound title match-ups.
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Post #1 8/7/11 10:35:24AM
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ShadowFighter
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i think jon jones is a good fighter, but i think evans can beat him no doubt
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Post #2 8/7/11 10:46:06AM
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Jon Jones is going to smash Rashad. If Rashad looks small next to Tito, he is going to look a whole weight class less then Jones.
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Post #3 8/7/11 11:06:12AM
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Posted by BelXavier420
Jon Jones is going to smash Rashad. If Rashad looks small next to Tito, he is going to look a whole weight class less then Jones.
I said essentially the same thing in the UFC forum
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Post #4 8/7/11 11:24:23AM
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Posted by BelXavier420
Jon Jones is going to smash Rashad. If Rashad looks small next to Tito, he is going to look a whole weight class less then Jones.
I would even say 2 weight classes to be honest. Rashad could make it down to 185 without a whole lot of trouble and Jones could easily be a heavyweight.
Even without the size difference, Jones is just a better fighter IMO and will roll Rashad pretty easily. I don't see anyone at 205 beating Jones anytime soon.
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Post #5 8/7/11 12:04:29PM
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Jones wouldve beatdown the Rashad from Round 1 of the Tito rematch last night.
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Post #6 8/7/11 12:06:15PM
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If I did not know anything behind the scenes of Rashad and Jones, I would definitely pick Jones over Rashad without hesitation.
Let's take a closer look at the recent events surrounding Rashad and Jones:
1. Jones wins the championship
2. Rashad challenges the title
3. Jones pulls out of fight with Rashad for surgery or something
4. Rashad is now set to fight Davis
5. Jones is healthy suddenly and signs to fight Rampage(*chuckles*)
Under the circumstances surrounding the two fighters and with the rumors of Rashad beating Jones in practice, I am compelled to pick Rashad and hope Rashad knows something I do not.
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Post #7 8/7/11 12:35:33PM
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Aether
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Posted by KungFuMaster
If I did not know anything behind the scenes of Rashad and Jones, I would definitely pick Jones over Rashad without hesitation.
Let's take a closer look at the recent events surrounding Rashad and Jones:
1. Jones wins the championship
2. Rashad challenges the title
3. Jones pulls out of fight with Rashad for surgery or something
4. Rashad is now set to fight Davis
5. Jones is healthy suddenly and signs to fight Rampage(*chuckles*)
Under the circumstances surrounding the two fighters and with the rumors of Rashad beating Jones in practice, I am compelled to pick Rashad and hope Rashad knows something I do not.
You'll be considerably more successful at picking fights if you base your decisions off of what you have seen fighters do first-hand rather than off of speculation and rumours floating around the internet. I'm sure there was a day in practice at some point where Rashad schooled Jones, it's going to happen when you practice together every day, but one story about a guy getting the better of someone in one practice session is a really bad way to pick fights. If you really think about it, the fact that we have heard about exactly one time where Rashad held Jones down implies that it was an incredibly rare occurrence, otherwise Rashad would say something like "I beat you sparring/wrestling all of the time" not "remember this one time that I beat you?"
Even if we assume that Jones' surgery story was an excuse to get out of the fight, there's no way we can reasonably assume that it's because he thinks Rashad will beat him. There are so many possible motivations. Maybe he just doesn't like Rashad and wanted to screw him out of his title shot, maybe he still sees Rashad as a mentor and doesn't want to fight him for that reason, who knows?
Based on what they've both done in the octagon, this is a real easy pick, I wouldn't over-complicate things so much, just my advice.
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Post #8 8/7/11 1:02:35PM
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Posted by KungFuMaster
If I did not know anything behind the scenes of Rashad and Jones, I would definitely pick Jones over Rashad without hesitation.
Let's take a closer look at the recent events surrounding Rashad and Jones:
1. Jones wins the championship
2. Rashad challenges the title
3. Jones pulls out of fight with Rashad for surgery or something
4. Rashad is now set to fight Davis
5. Jones is healthy suddenly and signs to fight Rampage(*chuckles*)
Under the circumstances surrounding the two fighters and with the rumors of Rashad beating Jones in practice, I am compelled to pick Rashad and hope Rashad knows something I do not.
Just a guess but mine is Jon Jones wasnt going 100 percent in practice...And Rashad was...the reason for practice to is to be put in precarious positions and work on getting out of them....
JOn Jones would not be learning and evolving as a fighter had he owned Rashad all the time in practice...but I doubt Jones is gonna say to Rashad I let you get me in this or that...He just doesnt strike me like that...
Also Rashad said if Rampage doesnt evolve as a fighter he wont make it outta the first roiund with Jones...
I think Rashad is trying to convince himself and get in Jones head...After all he has a degree in psychology...
Jones by more destruction....
I wish Rashad would fight Machida again..
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Post #9 8/7/11 3:32:43PM
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Patchedup15
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PLEASE LET JONES WIN.. no lucky punches by rampage
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Post #10 8/7/11 3:58:16PM
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KungFuMaster
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Well said gentlemen. I do not necessarily believe half the stuff I post anyway. I wanted to spark a thought and see how playground responded.
There may be truth to the circumstances I am referring to but yes, I agree Jones has shown to be the more destructive and better LHW fighter than Rashad. The guy has tentacles which could sting you from across the octagon.
Rashad's best bet is to keep dancing and lure in the giant squid and hopefully secure a take down. It was difficult for Rashad to touch Machida in the stand up and I can only imagine how much more difficult it would be to touch the body of a giant squid. Not only does Rashad has to worry about the tentacles wrapping around him, he has to avoid the stingers as well.
I will be rooting for Rashad and hoping the giant squid has a weakness. 
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Post #11 8/7/11 5:12:19PM
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Posted by ShadowFighter
i think jon jones is a good fighter, but i think evans can beat him no doubt
I want to know what aspect of MMA that Rashad is better that Jon in????? Jones is much bigger stronger, faster, strikes better, and has just as godd wrestling. As for BJJ its a toss up??? I cant come up with one...............Maybe the trash talking/hyping of a fight? But that **** donsn't win titles! Jones will smash Rashad in devastating fashion when they fight. I am willing to put my AV on the line for a year!
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Post #12 8/8/11 7:30:54PM
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Jones isn't stronger than Evans. Just look at their Build. Im not saying Rashad is better, because he's not. But Jones is not going to be physically stronger than Rashad nor Tito.
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Post #13 8/8/11 7:52:35PM
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Hendo67
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Jones via TKO in the first.
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Post #14 8/9/11 11:08:37AM
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One thing I don't think anyone has brought up is the reach advantage Jones has. Longest reach in the ufc and at light heavy no less. Rashad is gonna have a problem with that when he tries to come inside on Jones and gets hit before he can.
And as for the height disadvantage Rashad has against Tito, if you look at the picture from the weigh-ins, Tito is wearing shoes while Rashad is barefoot. Tito is still bigger but not what the picture showed
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