Antonio Rodrigo 'Big Nog' Nogueira on Dana White: 'He's Not a God |
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FastKnockout
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UFC President Dana White didn't wait very long to voice his opinion that Wanderlei Silva shouldn't fight again after Silva's KO loss to Chris Leben at UFC 132. That didn't sit very well with another Brazilian legend who's on the downward slope of his own career, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.
Nogueira spoke to Brazil's R7 Esportes (translated by Tom Mendes):
"I think he was unfortunate with his comments. They're idols of the sport, (Dana's) not a God who decides on everyone's career.
I loved the fact that Tito Ortiz won his last fight. You see that these people were not champions for nothing. Ortiz, Wanderlei and Fedor were top fighters for a reason. But Dana White can't decide that, he'll have to eat his words regarding Tito (laughs)"
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Post #1 7/8/11 3:52:40PM
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Theoutlaw08
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It's a business. It's Dana's business. He is the boss, he absolutley is the "God" of his company and decides everyone's fate. It is just like any other job, you can get fired for not preforming and if Dana thinks Wandy is done preforming he can fire him.....therefore Dana is the "God" of UFC.
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Post #2 7/8/11 5:01:54PM
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DeadHead988
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Posted by Theoutlaw08
It's a business. It's Dana's business. He is the boss, he absolutley is the "God" of his company and decides everyone's fate. It is just like any other job, you can get fired for not preforming and if Dana thinks Wandy is done preforming he can fire him.....therefore Dana is the "God" of UFC.
Actually Lorenzo Fertita, Frank Fertita, and the Abu Dhabi Government all own much more stock in the company then Dana, so he clearly is not "God".
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Post #3 7/8/11 5:28:27PM
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Posted by Theoutlaw08
It's a business. It's Dana's business. He is the boss, he absolutley is the "God" of his company and decides everyone's fate. It is just like any other job, you can get fired for not preforming and if Dana thinks Wandy is done preforming he can fire him.....therefore Dana is the "God" of UFC.
Theres no way he fires Wandy unless he lost his next 3, and theyd still be exciting so who knows even then..
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Post #4 7/8/11 6:02:57PM
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cagerage920
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it might be better for wandy to retire. Dana doesnt want to see a legend lose three in a row. And as far as tito goes, i dont think winning one fight in 5 years is really enough to make dana eat his words
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Post #5 7/8/11 6:29:39PM
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Posted by Theoutlaw08
It's a business. It's Dana's business. He is the boss, he absolutley is the "God" of his company and decides everyone's fate. It is just like any other job, you can get fired for not preforming and if Dana thinks Wandy is done preforming he can fire him.....therefore Dana is the "God" of UFC.
agree 100%, Dana can do what he wants when he wants. I don't always agree with DW but I do one this and the chuck situation. These guys are legends of the sport but a time comes when you have to save them from themselves. I know a lot of people don't think so but Dana white cares about these guys. And its not like Wanderlei got tko'ed, he got KNOCKED OUT. do you remember the scene after Rampage ko him. Involuntary convulsions. Brutal
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Post #6 7/8/11 8:01:20PM
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Posted by DeadHead988
Posted by Theoutlaw08
It's a business. It's Dana's business. He is the boss, he absolutley is the "God" of his company and decides everyone's fate. It is just like any other job, you can get fired for not preforming and if Dana thinks Wandy is done preforming he can fire him.....therefore Dana is the "God" of UFC.
Actually Lorenzo Fertita, Frank Fertita, and the Abu Dhabi Government all own much more stock in the company then Dana, so he clearly is not "God".
we'll just call him gods spokesman
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Post #7 7/8/11 8:05:10PM
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mrsmiley
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I understand Dana has a job to do but for me especialy in my job,any job it would be hard to take orders that drasticly alter or end your career coming from a guy who has never been their himself.
Perhaps they should put Chucks new PR job to use and make him executive of fighters relations or something?
Last edited 7/8/11 8:58PM by mrsmiley
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Post #8 7/8/11 8:58:16PM
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Lesnar1
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I think Dana may seem to be an A-Hole when he pushes certain fighters into retirement eg: Chuck Lidell and Wandy. But he is actually looking out for the fighters best intrest, he doesnt want a guy to be severley damaged or have a harder life and future for their families and themself because they didn't wana hang the gloves up. I'm not sure if Wandy is still capable of performing in the octogan at a level needed to simply surrvive in a fight but against Leben he looked to be war savy veteran whose body had enough. Or maybe he just got caught with a big shot but who knows. Dana is just looking out for the best intrest of the fighters. Nobody wants a fighter to end up really damaged for the rest of their life just because of stubborness. Dana at least has the balls to tell a guy alright listen you have had enough you may feel you can still go and hang with the best but recent history suggests it's time to hang up the gloves. I don't know if that's what he said specifically haha but it would probably be along those lines.
That's why Mohammad Ali is so damaged and mentally and physically broken. It's because all the yes men around him probably encouraged him to go out and fight a young Larry Homes or fight for years after he clearly should have retired or just stop fighting years and years before he actually did. Noone actually had the balls to actually put their foot down and tell Ali listen your not fighting anymore I don't care what you say or do your done buddy. Not the commisions, promoters, managers and other fighters if Dana was around back then and he had substantial power over boxing then he would have done the same thing to Ali as he did to Chuck and Wandy and Ali would probably be a healthy stable person to this day. I'm glad Dana does this cause if he didn't sure we would all be entertained seeing ledgends like Chuck, Wandy and Randy Couture fight past their twilight years but the future for them say the next 10 - 20 years of their life would be effected and I don't wana see that happen to guys who pionered & revolutionised the sport of mma.
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Post #9 7/9/11 12:52:24AM
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Posted by Lesnar1
I think Dana may seem to be an A-Hole when he pushes certain fighters into retirement eg: Chuck Lidell and Wandy. But he is actually looking out for the fighters best intrest, he doesnt want a guy to be severley damaged or have a harder life and future for their families and themself because they didn't wana hang the gloves up. I'm not sure if Wandy is still capable of performing in the octogan at a level needed to simply surrvive in a fight but against Leben he looked to be war savy veteran whose body had enough. Or maybe he just got caught with a big shot but who knows. Dana is just looking out for the best intrest of the fighters. Nobody wants a fighter to end up really damaged for the rest of their life just because of stubborness. Dana at least has the balls to tell a guy alright listen you have had enough you may feel you can still go and hang with the best but recent history suggests it's time to hang up the gloves. I don't know if that's what he said specifically haha but it would probably be along those lines.
That's why Mohammad Ali is so damaged and mentally and physically broken. It's because all the yes men around him probably encouraged him to go out and fight a young Larry Homes or fight for years after he clearly should have retired or just stop fighting years and years before he actually did. Noone actually had the balls to actually put their foot down and tell Ali listen your not fighting anymore I don't care what you say or do your done buddy. Not the commisions, promoters, managers and other fighters if Dana was around back then and he had substantial power over boxing then he would have done the same thing to Ali as he did to Chuck and Wandy and Ali would probably be a healthy stable person to this day. I'm glad Dana does this cause if he didn't sure we would all be entertained seeing ledgends like Chuck, Wandy and Randy Couture fight past their twilight years but the future for them say the next 10 - 20 years of their life would be effected and I don't wana see that happen to guys who pionered & revolutionised the sport of mma.
I generally don't like dana white, i think he is an a-hole, he talks and bashes fighters as if he has ever done it himself. on this particular topic i don't see him as an a-hole, ur right he is just looking out for the guy, he has wanderlei's best interests in my mind, whether he is right or wrong remains to be seen, no question his jaw isn't the same similar to chucks. the difference with tito is ortiz keeps losing decisions, chuck and wanderlei are getting ko'd. but nog is right as well, dana isn't god, if wanderlei wants to fight he will fight, maybe not in the ufc but somewhere else.
the bottom line is he is 1-1 at mw and has been knocked out once since moving down, don't pull the plug on em yet
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Post #10 7/9/11 6:37:28PM
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Chael_Sonnen
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Posted by FastKnockout
UFC President Dana White didn't wait very long to voice his opinion that Wanderlei Silva shouldn't fight again after Silva's KO loss to Chris Leben at UFC 132. That didn't sit very well with another Brazilian legend who's on the downward slope of his own career, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.
Nogueira spoke to Brazil's R7 Esportes (translated by Tom Mendes):
"I think he was unfortunate with his comments. They're idols of the sport, (Dana's) not a God who decides on everyone's career.
I loved the fact that Tito Ortiz won his last fight. You see that these people were not champions for nothing. Ortiz, Wanderlei and Fedor were top fighters for a reason. But Dana White can't decide that, he'll have to eat his words regarding Tito (laughs)"
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Neither are you Big Nog.
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Post #11 7/9/11 8:17:41PM
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BigBadAl
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Posted by cagerage920
it might be better for wandy to retire. Dana doesnt want to see a legend lose three in a row. And as far as tito goes, i dont think winning one fight in 5 years is really enough to make dana eat his words
I think is might a little as it was Bader who he beat. Bader was fighting for No 1 contender status not so long ago.
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Post #12 7/10/11 8:40:20AM
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