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Fedor Emelianenko Talks Retirement, His Legacy, and Possible Drop to Light Heavyweight

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Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up.” – Batman Begins

Former Pride champion Fedor Emelianenko echoed a similar quote when he lost via submission to Fabricio Werdum in 2010. Prior to that loss, the Russian legend had never truly tasted defeat before.

Unfortunately, Emelianenko picked himself back up only to be put down again by massive heavyweight Antonio “Bigfoot” Silva when the two met in February this year. The loss not only gave Emelianenko the second true loss on his ultra impressive record, but back-to-back defeats at that.

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I have been a long time Fedor fan but his time has come. The man, the myth, the legend has finally met the proverbial wall. He has been blessed with good fortune. It was like an angel was watching over the man from Stary Oskol as he entered the coliseum. The humble and simple man only knew one thing and that was to fight. He fought. He bled - and he prevailed.

One day, a book will be written and one day, this book will turn into a movie. The simple and humble man from Stary Oskol will have achieved immortality as his name will live on forever in books, history, documentaries, toys, games but most importantly he will live on forever .................in memories.

As the curtain falls on what was seemingly a timeless and magical journey, a glitter of light still remains and can be seen by anyone who chooses to look closely.

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Sorry but Fedor is the biggest fight dodger in the history of MMA... since 2005 he has NEVER fought a top end contender untill they were on their way out of the top organizations... He constantly fought off every contract to actually fight the best in the UFC...



The guy knew hes was more hype then anything else. If he was really as great as he and everyone claimed him to be he would of fought CURRENT top end fighters to prove it not fight guys like Hong Man Choi and Tim Sylvia (after he couldn't cut it in the UFC anymore) or Arlovsi (after he had been cut from the UFC).... The last time he actually fought a CURRENT top 5 opponent was the last time he fought Big Nog the better part of a decade ago.


Not to mention with LHW the way it is now he would get stomped on repeatedly in the UFC... and SFs LHW div is a joke at this point so he will try to make 205 to fight lesser people because he cannot hang with the SF HWs which are lesser overall then the UFC HWs. Hes a great can crusher, and has been killer... but i would bet everything that fighting a current op 5 in any weight class he can make would see him beaten before then end of the second round, and its been that way for over 5 years...


I know some people will flip out but that is a realistic look without drinking the fedor Kool -Aide tat everyone seems to drink by the gallon

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Posted by Jekyll

Sorry but Fedor is the biggest fight dodger in the history of MMA... since 2005 he has NEVER fought a top end contender untill they were on their way out of the top organizations... He constantly fought off every contract to actually fight the best in the UFC...



The guy knew hes was more hype then anything else. If he was really as great as he and everyone claimed him to be he would of fought CURRENT top end fighters to prove it not fight guys like Hong Man Choi and Tim Sylvia (after he couldn't cut it in the UFC anymore) or Arlovsi (after he had been cut from the UFC).... The last time he actually fought a CURRENT top 5 opponent was the last time he fought Big Nog the better part of a decade ago.


Not to mention with LHW the way it is now he would get stomped on repeatedly in the UFC... and SFs LHW div is a joke at this point so he will try to make 205 to fight lesser people because he cannot hang with the SF HWs which are lesser overall then the UFC HWs. Hes a great can crusher, and has been killer... but i would bet everything that fighting a current op 5 in any weight class he can make would see him beaten before then end of the second round, and its been that way for over 5 years...


I know some people will flip out but that is a realistic look without drinking the fedor Kool -Aide tat everyone seems to drink by the gallon



Tim Sylvia was still a consensus top 5 HW in the world. Arlovski was ranked top 3 by almost all MMA sites. Rogers was top 10 in virtually every ranking. not one top 5 UFC HW has had a string of 3 top 10 wins in the last 3 years.

why should Fedor have to prove himself against a 5-2 Lesnar, Velasquez whos biggest wins were against Zombie Nog and 5-2 Lesnar, JDS whos best win was against no cardio Carwin, Mir who got beaten silly by 5-2 Lesnar, or no cardio Carwin who is essentially a punching bag after 5 minutes? if anything, those 5 guys need to prove more.

just because someone fights under the UFC banner doesn't mean he is amazing all of a sudden. otherwise we might as well say Siver will easily beat Melendez or Bisping will run though Hector Lombard...which we all know is false

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Posted by Bubbles


Posted by Jekyll

Sorry but Fedor is the biggest fight dodger in the history of MMA... since 2005 he has NEVER fought a top end contender untill they were on their way out of the top organizations... He constantly fought off every contract to actually fight the best in the UFC...



The guy knew hes was more hype then anything else. If he was really as great as he and everyone claimed him to be he would of fought CURRENT top end fighters to prove it not fight guys like Hong Man Choi and Tim Sylvia (after he couldn't cut it in the UFC anymore) or Arlovsi (after he had been cut from the UFC).... The last time he actually fought a CURRENT top 5 opponent was the last time he fought Big Nog the better part of a decade ago.


Not to mention with LHW the way it is now he would get stomped on repeatedly in the UFC... and SFs LHW div is a joke at this point so he will try to make 205 to fight lesser people because he cannot hang with the SF HWs which are lesser overall then the UFC HWs. Hes a great can crusher, and has been killer... but i would bet everything that fighting a current op 5 in any weight class he can make would see him beaten before then end of the second round, and its been that way for over 5 years...


I know some people will flip out but that is a realistic look without drinking the fedor Kool -Aide tat everyone seems to drink by the gallon



Tim Sylvia was still a consensus top 5 HW in the world. Arlovski was ranked top 3 by almost all MMA sites. Rogers was top 10 in virtually every ranking. not one top 5 UFC HW has had a string of 3 top 10 wins in the last 3 years.

why should Fedor have to prove himself against a 5-2 Lesnar, Velasquez whos biggest wins were against Zombie Nog and 5-2 Lesnar, JDS whos best win was against no cardio Carwin, Mir who got beaten silly by 5-2 Lesnar, or no cardio Carwin who is essentially a punching bag after 5 minutes? if anything, those 5 guys need to prove more.

just because someone fights under the UFC banner doesn't mean he is amazing all of a sudden. otherwise we might as well say Siver will easily beat Melendez or Bisping will run though Hector Lombard...which we all know is false



Great points.
Most the time people mention the lack of quality opponents for Fedor they too often forget that most all his opposistion fail miserably after facing him,not prior.
These statics are a bit dated but still stand pretty well.
This is why fighting Fedor is bad for your MMA career...

Fedor’s Last---------------------Record Before---Record Versus---Win Percentage
Ten Opponents------------------Fedor-----------and After Fedor--Difference
1. Andrei "Pitbull" Arlovski----------15-5-----------0-2--------------(-75%)
2. Tim "The Maine-iac" Sylvia------24-4-----------0-2--------------(-86%)
3. Hong Man "Techno Goliath" Choi-1-0------------1-2--------------(-66%)
4. Matt "The Law" Lindland--------20-4------------1-2-------------(-50%)
5. Mark Hunt----------------------5-2-------------0-4--------------(-71%)
6. Mark "The Hammer" Coleman----13-5-------------2-4--------------(-39%)
7. Wagner "Zuluzinho"-------------3-0--------------2-6--------------(-75%)
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8. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic -----16-3-------------9-3---------------(-9%)
9. Tsuyoshi "TK" Kohsaka----------24-15------------2-3---------------(-22%)
10. Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro"----19-1-------------12-4--------------(-20%)
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Interesting Facts:
Fedor’s last ten opponents lost 51% more of their fights, after they faced him.

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Posted by Bubbles


Posted by Jekyll

Sorry but Fedor is the biggest fight dodger in the history of MMA... since 2005 he has NEVER fought a top end contender untill they were on their way out of the top organizations... He constantly fought off every contract to actually fight the best in the UFC...



The guy knew hes was more hype then anything else. If he was really as great as he and everyone claimed him to be he would of fought CURRENT top end fighters to prove it not fight guys like Hong Man Choi and Tim Sylvia (after he couldn't cut it in the UFC anymore) or Arlovsi (after he had been cut from the UFC).... The last time he actually fought a CURRENT top 5 opponent was the last time he fought Big Nog the better part of a decade ago.


Not to mention with LHW the way it is now he would get stomped on repeatedly in the UFC... and SFs LHW div is a joke at this point so he will try to make 205 to fight lesser people because he cannot hang with the SF HWs which are lesser overall then the UFC HWs. Hes a great can crusher, and has been killer... but i would bet everything that fighting a current op 5 in any weight class he can make would see him beaten before then end of the second round, and its been that way for over 5 years...


I know some people will flip out but that is a realistic look without drinking the fedor Kool -Aide tat everyone seems to drink by the gallon



Tim Sylvia was still a consensus top 5 HW in the world. Arlovski was ranked top 3 by almost all MMA sites. Rogers was top 10 in virtually every ranking. not one top 5 UFC HW has had a string of 3 top 10 wins in the last 3 years.

why should Fedor have to prove himself against a 5-2 Lesnar, Velasquez whos biggest wins were against Zombie Nog and 5-2 Lesnar, JDS whos best win was against no cardio Carwin, Mir who got beaten silly by 5-2 Lesnar, or no cardio Carwin who is essentially a punching bag after 5 minutes? if anything, those 5 guys need to prove more.

just because someone fights under the UFC banner doesn't mean he is amazing all of a sudden. otherwise we might as well say Siver will easily beat Melendez or Bisping will run though Hector Lombard...which we all know is false



you are missing the point that their careers were basically done when they fought fedor... Sylvia... he was done and booted out of the UFC because of losses, Arlovski same thing (yes his last fight was a win but it was a snoozefest)

Rogers was very very over rated anyone that watches MMA would tell you that... beating up no-bodies does not make you a somebody...


Fedor has not beena top HW since 2005... hes not foguth someone that was not on their way out or a circus freak since then... Giant silva beat him like a red headed step child and Werdum subed him without too much trouble... Giant Silva wouldn't be a gatekeeper in the UFC if you look at it realistically, and Werdum is great in SF but he would be on the bottom end of the top 10 if he went to the UFC...


Having 40 wins means nothing when you only fought 5 or 6 good fighters... Look at a truly great fighter in GSP... in all his fights there are MAYBE 4 or 5 guys that people have not herd of and have not been at the top or near the top of their weight class when GSP fought and beat them.


Yet Fedor is the "greatest fighter ever" fighting no-bodies and has beens and the real out standing fighters are not even mentioned when they constantly fight top opponents.

The only thing you prove to everyone when you claim Fedor is great is that you are blinded and have no real knowledge of MMA and do not know the difference in beating a no-body and fighting an acutal fighter. Fedor was one a top end HW, but that time was the better part of a decade ago. Fedor has not fought and beat a top flight opponent since Big Nog in 2004

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Fedor's zenith atop the sport is obviously not what it used to be, but i still think he has all the tools and more to dominate at LHW as well as beat quite a few names atop HW.

He's 34, and the least hit fighter on his feet in the entire sports history. His chin and reflexes are still there. Power is the last thing to go. His speed is still fading. He's not a shot fighter.

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AA's last 3 fights in the UFC where wins actually.It's just they where a completley different dynamic than what AA was used to. Before those three fights his only two losses in the UFC where to Big Tim and his first two to Pedro and Ricco.

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Anyway

Fedor's zenith atop the sport is obviously not what it used to be, but i still think he has all the tools and more to dominate at LHW as well as beat quite a few names atop HW.

He's 34, and the least hit fighter on his feet in the entire sports history. His chin and reflexes are still there. Power is the last thing to go. His speed is still fading. He's not a shot fighter.


it never was what people made it out to be... thats the thing... hes fought the weakest opponents of the "great" fighters...

If you look at his "pedigree" hes not got really any more high profile wins then Frank Mir, and everyone constantly talks crap about him...

Big Nog and Cro Cop are the biggest wins in Fedors cap.. and Mir has also beaten both of them an he beat Nog with little effort compared to Fedor...


Fedor is MMA most over rated fighter, not greatest. Fedor dodged the UFC for years becasue he know he was more hype then ability... he did not want to face the true best of the best and get embarrased. Now the second string of MMA Strikeforce has had fighters show that he was more hype then anything.

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Posted by Jekyll


Posted by Pookie

Anyway

Fedor's zenith atop the sport is obviously not what it used to be, but i still think he has all the tools and more to dominate at LHW as well as beat quite a few names atop HW.

He's 34, and the least hit fighter on his feet in the entire sports history. His chin and reflexes are still there. Power is the last thing to go. His speed is still fading. He's not a shot fighter.


it never was what people made it out to be... thats the thing... hes fought the weakest opponents of the "great" fighters...

If you look at his "pedigree" hes not got really any more high profile wins then Frank Mir, and everyone constantly talks crap about him...

Big Nog and Cro Cop are the biggest wins in Fedors cap.. and Mir has also beaten both of them an he beat Nog with little effort compared to Fedor...


Fedor is MMA most over rated fighter, not greatest. Fedor dodged the UFC for years becasue he know he was more hype then ability... he did not want to face the true best of the best and get embarrased. Now the second string of MMA Strikeforce has had fighters show that he was more hype then anything.



You say Fedor fought people out of their primes, and yet you say Mir's wins over Big Nog and Cro-cop are equivalent to Fedor's wins over Big Nog and Cro-cop. Where's your fight people in their prime argument when it's counter-productive to your point? You have a clear Bias, and it shows.

So ill just disagree with you, and assert that Fedor is P4p the best fighter the sport has seen, in both accomplishment and merit. Especially Merit.

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Posted by Pookie


Posted by Jekyll


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Anyway

Fedor's zenith atop the sport is obviously not what it used to be, but i still think he has all the tools and more to dominate at LHW as well as beat quite a few names atop HW.

He's 34, and the least hit fighter on his feet in the entire sports history. His chin and reflexes are still there. Power is the last thing to go. His speed is still fading. He's not a shot fighter.


it never was what people made it out to be... thats the thing... hes fought the weakest opponents of the "great" fighters...

If you look at his "pedigree" hes not got really any more high profile wins then Frank Mir, and everyone constantly talks crap about him...

Big Nog and Cro Cop are the biggest wins in Fedors cap.. and Mir has also beaten both of them an he beat Nog with little effort compared to Fedor...


Fedor is MMA most over rated fighter, not greatest. Fedor dodged the UFC for years becasue he know he was more hype then ability... he did not want to face the true best of the best and get embarrased. Now the second string of MMA Strikeforce has had fighters show that he was more hype then anything.



You say Fedor fought people out of their primes, and yet you say Mir's wins over Big Nog and Cro-cop are equivalent to Fedor's wins over Big Nog and Cro-cop. Where's your fight people in their prime argument when it's counter-productive to your point? You have a clear Bias, and it shows.

So ill just disagree with you, and assert that Fedor is P4p the best fighter the sport has seen, in both accomplishment and merit. Especially Merit.

So you want to credit Fedor with a win over Sylvia after he was nothing yet do not want to give Mir credit for Nog??


talk about hugging someones nuts a bit tight... Fedor has not fought a legit top 10 and won since 2004... and mir has not fought anyone out of the top 10 since 2008...

Fedor is looking liekt he great one there... beating has beens and never gonna bees is a shure fire wat to be titled "the greatest" by typical MMA fan... The current Top UFC fighters have beaten more credible fighters then Fedor has even fought.

Prove me wrong... cause someone lilke Mir who gets constant hate has fought and beat more top 5s then Fedors fought top 10s..


You just claim hes the best yet have 0 proof prove what makes Fedor a great fighter because if you look at his record hes got 2 big wins and more then 30 cans.... Hell Brock Lesnar has beaten more high profile fighters then Fedor

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So you want to credit Fedor with a win over Sylvia after he was nothing yet do not want to give Mir credit for Nog??


talk about hugging someones nuts a bit tight... Fedor has not fought a legit top 10 and won since 2004... and mir has not fought anyone out of the top 10 since 2008...

Fedor is looking liekt he great one there... beating has beens and never gonna bees is a shure fire wat to be titled "the greatest" by typical MMA fan... The current Top UFC fighters have beaten more credible fighters then Fedor has even fought.

Prove me wrong... cause someone lilke Mir who gets constant hate has fought and beat more top 5s then Fedors fought top 10s..


You just claim hes the best yet have 0 proof prove what makes Fedor a great fighter because if you look at his record hes got 2 big wins and more then 30 cans.... Hell Brock Lesnar has beaten more high profile fighters then Fedor



You clearly can't comprehend that in 2005 Cro Cop was bigger then the beatles, and when Fedor fought Tim he was JUST coming off a loss in the UFC HW championship that until he ended up getting submitted he dominated, ANNNNND when he fought AA he looked better and more impressive then ever. Now what makes these guys that Brock has beat impressive other then the fact that the UFC told you they were?

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Posted by Jekyll

So you want to credit Fedor with a win over Sylvia after he was nothing yet do not want to give Mir credit for Nog??


talk about hugging someones nuts a bit tight... Fedor has not fought a legit top 10 and won since 2004... and mir has not fought anyone out of the top 10 since 2008...

Fedor is looking liekt he great one there... beating has beens and never gonna bees is a shure fire wat to be titled "the greatest" by typical MMA fan... The current Top UFC fighters have beaten more credible fighters then Fedor has even fought.

Prove me wrong... cause someone lilke Mir who gets constant hate has fought and beat more top 5s then Fedors fought top 10s..


You just claim hes the best yet have 0 proof prove what makes Fedor a great fighter because if you look at his record hes got 2 big wins and more then 30 cans.... Hell Brock Lesnar has beaten more high profile fighters then Fedor



You clearly can't comprehend that in 2005 Cro Cop was bigger then the beatles, and when Fedor fought Tim he was JUST coming off a loss in the UFC HW championship that until he ended up getting submitted he dominated, ANNNNND when he fought AA he looked better and more impressive then ever. Now what makes these guys that Brock has beat impressive other then the fact that the UFC told you they were?



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