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What about the shape and width of the head?
If your head is wider and more round shaped It would give the brain more room to move without hittin the skull Wall. If you have a very thin head the brain would hit the wall much easier. Alot of these fighters have much squarer jaw lines as well. Can you prove this wrong by thinking of any fighters with solid chins and thin heads? Or Round heads and suspect chins?

Bj penn, Anderson Silva, Chris Leben, David Tua, Mark Hunt, rampage all Have round wide heads.


Jonathan Goulet, Kendall Grove, Amir Khan etc... Have thin heads.

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I think some of it's mental too. If you see a shot coming you can take it better, shots that you don't see can knockout anybody. Also wars and being constantly knocked out definitely takes it's effect on your chin.

Like Cabbage was a beast at taking shots but he took so much it took it's effect after he was finally KO'd, and then after that it got worst. I don't think anybody's born with a weak chin.

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Posted by rface1988

What about the shape and width of the head?
If your head is wider and more round shaped It would give the brain more room to move without hittin the skull Wall. If you have a very thin head the brain would hit the wall much easier. Alot of these fighters have much squarer jaw lines as well. Can you prove this wrong by thinking of any fighters with solid chins and thin heads? Or Round heads and suspect chins?

Bj penn, Anderson Silva, Chris Leben, David Tua, Mark Hunt, rampage all Have round wide heads.


Jonathan Goulet, Kendall Grove, Amir Khan etc... Have thin heads.



You're definitely right with you're line of thinking.

Some iron chinned fighters occasionally have thin heads, but only if their chin is wide - (Nick Diaz, Gray Maynard, Jake Shields, etc...)

A squarer Jaw and Rounder head will cushion your brain against Hooking punches that would turn your head; A Thick and wide chin will cushion your brain against Straight punches that catch you on the button.

Bj Penn has a Square jaw and a thin chin, which is partially why straight punches can keep him at bay, but hooking punches rarely show any effect. Whereas Nick Diaz is the opposite, he gets dropped alot but rarely do punches stifle his momentum.

The S-Class durable fighters are the ones with both, Like Anderson Silva, Rampage, Kharitonov, Dan Henderson, and Mark Hunt.

Also on a side note - The muscles on the side of your neck add a little bit of cushion to absorbing both straight and hooking punches, and fighters with over-developed trapezius(upper back) muscles will often have developed these neck muscles. It's very typical for these types of fighters to say that the punches they took bothered them more than they damaged them, even if it eventually puts them out. Fighters like this - Rashad Evans, Alistair Overeem, Mike Tyson.


To estimate the chin of a fighter on sight, Look at whether the beginning of their Jaw starts below their mouth(Good) or Above(Weaker). Then, Look at how wide their chin is relative to their mouth, the wider the better. Lastly look at how much their chin drops down(the more hang the bigger the button), and how thick their jawline is relative to the rest of their face, the more it portrudes wide, the better. Think Dan Henderson.




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Do you think having a skinny bone structure leaves you more likely to get knocked out?

I have a small head a skinny wrists/ankles and bones

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Posted by rface1988

Do you think having a skinny bone structure leaves you more likely to get knocked out?

I have a small head a skinny wrists/ankles and bones



I think having a skinny bone structure leaves you less capable of supporting weight. And people who weight less can take less of an impact. Jose Aldo for instance, probably couldnt take a HW punch and eat it.

But you also have to factor in your height, the width of your frame, and the width of your wrists to see how big you "should" be. So judging by just skinny bone structure is impossible.

But i will say that relative to people their own size, the important factors are found in the shape of the face and the quality of their defense.

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