Gilbert Yvel vs. Tony Lopez headlines Colosseo Championship Fighting on July 23 |
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Randy is King
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It's not exactly the return of PRIDE, but July 23 will represent the return of PRIDE rules. Colosseo Championship Fighting is set to host its first event this summer at a venue yet to be determined, and the promotion recently released the evening's nine-fight lineup. Occupying the headline slot are UFC and PRIDE vet Gilbert Yvel (36-16-1) and former King of the Cage dual-division champion Tony Lopez (24-6), who will each have soccer kicks, and stomps at their disposal under a set of policies promoter Pasqualino Santoro has dubbed "international rules."
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What do you guys think of the old Pride rules being brought back for this event?
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Post #1 5/15/11 9:21:22AM
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pmoney
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Career record: 544-319
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I love Pride rules. Take any UFC fight, and apply Pride rules to them, and I think more often than not a different person wins the fight. There are so many times we see people in trouble and they get saved by the bell. Not to mention a ten minute first round is so much more physically taxing.
I have to bring up a point that I think is valid, and that is when elbows are not allowed on the ground, you have to space up to throw punches. This allows for more attempts for the bottom fighter to escape and try to work submissions. It could help to cut down on a lot of lay and pray BS and force people to work for a finish.
Did the UFC referees forget they can stand people up, or break up the fighters and restart them? I hate watching three rounds of dudes kneeing each others legs while in the clinch against the cage. If you're going to clinch, watch Menjivar-Valencia, that's the kind of work inside I want to see!!
Pride Rules 4 Life
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Post #2 5/15/11 10:26:51AM
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Randy is King
Career record: 998-592
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Location: Ontario
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I have to spread the love but great post. I agree with you fully. So many times I see guys who are in trouble just drop to a knee so they can't be kicked or kneed. I don't nessesarily agree stomps should be brought back but knees to an opponent on the ground just makes sense to me. It's an extra weapon that is often used very affectively in orgs that allow it.
I'm also pretty sick of the pushing your opponent into the cage and just holding that position for minutes at a time. Then when a ref finally does split them up the fight goes right back to that same position! If this show works out great then maybe we'll see more and more orgs bringing back the Pride rules. I can only hope.
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"I smoke herbs bro. Mind control bullshit doesn't work on people who smoke herbs."
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Post #3 5/15/11 10:40:00AM
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Franklinfan47
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Season: 42-17 (#341)
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Love it!
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Post #4 5/15/11 1:24:12PM
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Randy is King
Career record: 998-592
Season: 42-17 (#92)
Location: Ontario
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That's the spirit!
He's ready, are you?
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Post #5 5/15/11 1:33:29PM
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pmoney
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 544-319
Season: 39-20 (#408)
Location: PD, CA, USA
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You know who else loves soccer kicks and stomps?
This guy!!!
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Post #6 5/15/11 2:24:20PM
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Randy is King
Career record: 998-592
Season: 42-17 (#92)
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Adding soccer kicks to Aldo's arsenal would be legitimately scary at this point.
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_______________________________________ "If you don't like me that's fine, but you're wrong and I hate you."
"I smoke herbs bro. Mind control bullshit doesn't work on people who smoke herbs."
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Post #7 5/15/11 5:25:16PM
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pmoney
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 544-319
Season: 39-20 (#408)
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I've seen him use the soccer kicks and stomps in his highlight reel. Quite frightening to see, I didn't think Aldo could be more savage...
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Post #8 5/15/11 5:30:44PM
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DeadHead988
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Career record: 231-189
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Some things from the Pride rules should be carried over, but not all. For example, stomps and soccer kicks to the head I really don't think should be kept. However, I think knees on the ground are a necessity because too often an opponent just puts his hand on the mat to prevent being kneed in the face. Also, I think that knees from a sprawl like Bisping did to Rivera should be legal, but knees from a north-south is where I would draw the line. On the show Deadliest Warrior they had Rashad Evans knee a ballistics gel dummy in the head from north-south and it was enough to crack the skull and cause a potentially fatal hemmorhage. That's just my thoughts.
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Post #9 5/15/11 8:15:27PM
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BustedKnuckle
MMA Sensei
Career record: 559-325
Season: 3-2 (#2318)
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I am behind soccer kicks and knee to a grounded opponent for sure. Stomps are a bit too agressive for me. The guys head has nowhere to go! I love a great brutal KO as much as the next guy, but not at a fighters life's expense. Life ending force can be generated with a downward heel to the temple! A soccer kick KO is no more brutal than what Rashad did to Sean Salmon with a standing kick! Another variable in this equation is the referee. Socer kicks could be followed up by numkerous punches/strikes without the stoppage made by a veteren ref. So should rules be all encompassing or should one level of fighter(org) be able to use skills others cant under "unified" rules?? Too much for my simple mind to contemplate. Glad i get to watch and enjoy!!!
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Post #10 5/15/11 10:12:49PM
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