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i have to admit though... things havnt exactly been happening as i predicted lol

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Post #31   4/23/07 11:32:34PM   

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Posted by skow711

Tito is a wrestlers also and not a good wrestler at that. Rashads wrestling skills are good enough that Tito wont be able to take him down.

Rashad by decision



if rashad keeps it standing hes getting ko'ed...his stand up is just half assed compared to top level strikers. tito may not be a top level striker but hes done better than anyone of liddells last 7 fights. i dont see rashad lasting 2 minutes with liddell..


Dude thats the funniest sh*t ive heard all day tito was losing the striking game to forrest griffin and we all saw the tito liddel fight



and the only ass beating titos given in the last couple of years is to shamrock.
rashad by 3rd rnd tko

Post #32   4/23/07 11:55:32PM   

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As we all know Rashad is an awesome college wrestler but college wrestling and mma wrestling are to different things... I think tito has a very tight stand up game which will give rashad alot of trouble and will allow tito to do what he does best GnP... Tito Rnd2 TKO

Post #33   4/24/07 12:10:30AM   

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Posted by skow711

Tito is a wrestlers also and not a good wrestler at that. Rashads wrestling skills are good enough that Tito wont be able to take him down.

Rashad by decision


You're basing this on what evidence? The fact that Rashad had a 48-34 record in his wrestling career? Or that fact that Tito beat Matt Hughes in a wrestling competition or that he was a State Junior College champ after only being in the game a few years? Tito is a natural wrestler and probably could have been olympic level if he had persued it more. The fact is he went from junior college to cage fighting and Rashad happen to go as far as he could and ended up with less than a 60% win ratio. The dude is not a greate wrestler, he just happened to be better than most of the fighters he has gone up against. To compare him to Randy Couture is frickin absurd, in fact I want an appology on behalf of Randy.



He is not a great wrestler but he wrestled on the Division I college level at a big time college wrestling program at Michigan St.? Come on.

Post #34   4/24/07 12:17:11AM   

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Posted by toothmaman

I'm giving this one to Rashad via split decision, wouldn't put money on it though.


If you're not willing to put money on it then why say it at all? I put 400 on Tito and 100 on Rampage. My bankroll is empty til those two fights are over!

Post #35   4/24/07 1:44:01AM   

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Rashad is winning that fight, tito isn't the same fighter he used to be.

Post #36   4/24/07 7:40:04AM   

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Tito hates body shots and i personally dont rate his chin at all, if rashad can keep it on the feet, sprawling to avoid the takedowns like forrest did, then rashad could pull of a ko. If tito puts rashad on the mat, its tito's fight, wether via tko, submission or decision.

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Posted by keith-hackney1

Tito hates body shots and i personally dont rate his chin at all, if rashad can keep it on the feet, sprawling to avoid the takedowns like forrest did, then rashad could pull of a ko. If tito puts rashad on the mat, its tito's fight, wether via tko, submission or decision.


You don't think Tito has a chin after the beating he took in round 1 of the second Liddell fight?

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Tito hates body shots and i personally dont rate his chin at all, if rashad can keep it on the feet, sprawling to avoid the takedowns like forrest did, then rashad could pull of a ko. If tito puts rashad on the mat, its tito's fight, wether via tko, submission or decision.


You don't think Tito has a chin after the beating he took in round 1 of the second Liddell fight?



I dont think his chin is that great, when he gets struck by other fighters, he has no reply so covers up his face and sticks his knee out protecting his chin coz he knows it too.

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Tito hates body shots and i personally dont rate his chin at all, if rashad can keep it on the feet, sprawling to avoid the takedowns like forrest did, then rashad could pull of a ko. If tito puts rashad on the mat, its tito's fight, wether via tko, submission or decision.


You don't think Tito has a chin after the beating he took in round 1 of the second Liddell fight?



I dont think his chin is that great, when he gets struck by other fighters, he has no reply so covers up his face and sticks his knee out protecting his chin coz he knows it too.



I can give you examples in his fight against liddell where he did answer with overhand rights and actually stunned liddell into backing up. Simple because Liddell says he doesn't like to get hit doesn't make it true. Liddell only knows from his experience which really isn't the fighter to base those kind of assertions on. He knocked out Randy Couture, does Randy have a weak chin too?

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Anyone catch the latest smack talk between the two??? ufcjunkie.com reported that Tito called Rashad the first women fighter in the UFC and said in reference to Don Imus that Rashad would be his "nappy headed Ho".

As for whoever refuted my comment about Tito not being God's greatest gift just because he took a three round beating from Liddell. My point was that you cannot judge Tito merely based on the fact he has fought Liddell, Rashad has an impeccable record and much like Gonzaga just has not had the opprotunity to face top level competition.

I see this ending rd 2 Rashad by GnP.

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Posted by JBatch

Anyone catch the latest smack talk between the two??? ufcjunkie.com reported that Tito called Rashad the first women fighter in the UFC and said in reference to Don Imus that Rashad would be his "nappy headed Ho".

As for whoever refuted my comment about Tito not being God's greatest gift just because he took a three round beating from Liddell. My point was that you cannot judge Tito merely based on the fact he has fought Liddell, Rashad has an impeccable record and much like Gonzaga just has not had the opprotunity to face top level competition.

I see this ending rd 2 Rashad by GnP.



I don't think anyone here has claimed Tito to be Gods gift to MMA. However, I will say that after watching several of Rashad's latest fightins including Bonnar and Salmon, he didn't impress me one bit. For 1, Rashad couldn't finish off Bonnar even though he could take him down at will. Which doesn't really mean anything because Bonnar is not known for take down defense. On top of that he couldn't stand with Bonnar because Bonnar was actually winning the stand up game. 2, When he fought Sean Salmon he was unable to take Salmon down simply because Salmon had a wrestling backround. Prior to kicking Salmon's face off, Salmon was winning the fight with striking.

Against Lambert? What can we say, the dude was unproven in the UFC, he had a bunch of wins in lower level fighting associations came up in the past few years and still fought a bunch of mediocre fighters. Only recently did he beat anyone of consequence in Renato Sobral. Which I can't even explain that fight.

My point in all of this is that Rashad is nothing special. He's a wrestler that is about to go up against someone that not only can out wrestle him but can also out ground and pound him, can out clinch him, and can out last him.

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Posted by methodman_90

I say Tito wins by close decision. This will test where Rashad is at




Agreed! This will definitley test Rashad! I think it will be fun to watch, or at least I really hope so..!

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Tito is going to overwhelm Rashad with elbows... this fight will end in the first... Tito by ref stoppage

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Posted by Sopena66669

As we all know Rashad is an awesome college wrestler but college wrestling and mma wrestling are to different things... I think tito has a very tight stand up game which will give rashad alot of trouble and will allow tito to do what he does best GnP... Tito Rnd2 TKO



Cael Sanderson is a great wrestler. Rashad Evans was a medicore wrestler at best who, when I saw him, relied on natural ability to carry him through

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