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Its a fact that the HW div isnt stacked.....
But 3 heavyweight fights in the next 5 events.
sad-
Make them big boys fight-
Struve/mcorkle
Barry/ Beltran
and Meathead vs Hague...

wheres the beef-
Does anyone care???

Post #1   12/8/10 10:05:16PM   

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The UFC has been all about the heavyweights for the last year or so. Most of the major matches have been decided at heavyweight.

Post #2   12/8/10 10:32:27PM   

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You can't be that suprised with HW's prolly having the least number of fighters and UFC/WEC merger.

Post #3   12/8/10 11:10:04PM   

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Where's Mike Russow been since the Duffman KO? I assume it's an injury, but he hasn't really had a heavy workload of fights lately anyway.

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TS has a very good point though. over the past few years the heavy weights have fought far fewer times than the other weight classes. also, WW and LW fight far more times than the other weight classes. i guess it is just a matter that there isn't as many top athletes at 265 as there is at 170 and 155.

i would love to see more HW match ups and have similar frustrations. HWs have the highest finish ratio of any other wieght class and everyone loves to see two goliaths go at it.

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Heavyweights break down a lot, and suffer many injuries that are never mentioned. The human body wasn't made to be huge and athletic at the same time.

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Posted by jiujitsufreak74

TS has a very good point though. over the past few years the heavy weights have fought far fewer times than the other weight classes. also, WW and LW fight far more times than the other weight classes. i guess it is just a matter that there isn't as many top athletes at 265 as there is at 170 and 155.

i would love to see more HW match ups and have similar frustrations. HWs have the highest finish ratio of any other wieght class and everyone loves to see two goliaths go at it.



I have a theroy on this. Most pro athletes in the 225-265 range are making huge money in the NBA and NFL. But there isn't really a sport for guys 170 and below other then fighting. This is why we see more fighters in this range. Not to mention most men in shape men are under 200 lbs. I think as the sport grows we are going to see alot of athletes who are not good enough for the NBA and NFL going to MMA instead of Arena football CFL international basketball to make there living.

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Posted by postman


Posted by jiujitsufreak74

TS has a very good point though. over the past few years the heavy weights have fought far fewer times than the other weight classes. also, WW and LW fight far more times than the other weight classes. i guess it is just a matter that there isn't as many top athletes at 265 as there is at 170 and 155.

i would love to see more HW match ups and have similar frustrations. HWs have the highest finish ratio of any other wieght class and everyone loves to see two goliaths go at it.



I have a theroy on this. Most pro athletes in the 225-265 range are making huge money in the NBA and NFL. But there isn't really a sport for guys 170 and below other then fighting. This is why we see more fighters in this range. Not to mention most men in shape men are under 200 lbs.



Mike Russow, Jason Brilz, Matt Mitrione and not even mentioning Roy Nelson tells you, you don't have to be shape to be a fighter....

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Posted by jjeans


Posted by postman


Posted by jiujitsufreak74

TS has a very good point though. over the past few years the heavy weights have fought far fewer times than the other weight classes. also, WW and LW fight far more times than the other weight classes. i guess it is just a matter that there isn't as many top athletes at 265 as there is at 170 and 155.

i would love to see more HW match ups and have similar frustrations. HWs have the highest finish ratio of any other wieght class and everyone loves to see two goliaths go at it.



I have a theroy on this. Most pro athletes in the 225-265 range are making huge money in the NBA and NFL. But there isn't really a sport for guys 170 and below other then fighting. This is why we see more fighters in this range. Not to mention most men in shape men are under 200 lbs.



Mike Russow, Jason Brilz, Matt Mitrione and not even mentioning Roy Nelson tells you, you don't have to be shape to be a fighter....



I disagree with the assumption that just because someone is "fat" it means they're out of shape. There has actually been a lot of research done on the issue. Such people are the exception and not the rule, but they most definitely exist. And I think we can all agree that if you're athletic enough to make it to the ufc you're more than likely a human "exception".

I personally think the UFC realizes that the more exciting back and forth high paced fights are generally at lower weight classes. I think they throw the fans a bone every now and again when it comes to heavyweight fights, but I think on the whole the UFC knows exciting bouts are often lighter weight ones.

Post #9   12/9/10 12:43:08PM   

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Posted by Jackelope


Posted by jjeans


Posted by postman


Posted by jiujitsufreak74

TS has a very good point though. over the past few years the heavy weights have fought far fewer times than the other weight classes. also, WW and LW fight far more times than the other weight classes. i guess it is just a matter that there isn't as many top athletes at 265 as there is at 170 and 155.

i would love to see more HW match ups and have similar frustrations. HWs have the highest finish ratio of any other wieght class and everyone loves to see two goliaths go at it.



I have a theroy on this. Most pro athletes in the 225-265 range are making huge money in the NBA and NFL. But there isn't really a sport for guys 170 and below other then fighting. This is why we see more fighters in this range. Not to mention most men in shape men are under 200 lbs.



Mike Russow, Jason Brilz, Matt Mitrione and not even mentioning Roy Nelson tells you, you don't have to be shape to be a fighter....



I disagree with the assumption that just because someone is "fat" it means they're out of shape. There has actually been a lot of research done on the issue. Such people are the exception and not the rule, but they most definitely exist. And I think we can all agree that if you're athletic enough to make it to the ufc you're more than likely a human "exception".

I personally think the UFC realizes that the more exciting back and forth high paced fights are generally at lower weight classes. I think they throw the fans a bone every now and again when it comes to heavyweight fights, but I think on the whole the UFC knows exciting bouts are often lighter weight ones.


Yeah most NFL line man are fat but clearly they are in shape.

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it is absolutely indisputable that the faster, higher paced fights occur at the lighter weights. however, there has always been an allure to the general public when the biggest of the big meet in the center of the ring/octagon. throughout most/all combat sports, the heavyweights have been the biggest draw. i guess it's because the HW champion of a combat sport is most likely "the baddest man on the planet" since theoretically they should beat all champions at the lower weight classes.

i also agree with postman that most top athletes that weigh over 230 are most likely involved in other sports. as MMA gets more popular we are more likely to see more big men turn to the sport, especially if more HW champion collegiate wrestlers see the success of guys like Lesnar, Velasquez and Carwin.

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Posted by Twenty20Dollars

You can't be that suprised with HW's prolly having the least number of fighters and UFC/WEC merger.


Actually its a tie with HW and 205ers since the WEC dropped the 205 and 185 division before they merged and/or bought out

Post #12   12/10/10 7:00:09PM   

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If you go to UFC.com and look at the roster it reads like this
BW-5 fighters
FW - 16 fighters
LW- 57 fighters
WW - 55 fighters
MW - 41 fighters
LHW - 36 fighters
HW - 27 fighters

Post #13   12/11/10 2:20:11PM